In the early days of this podcast, Dr. Roizen shared the airwaves with his friend Jim Graham.

Jim joins us once again to talk about his new calling, bereavement counseling with his local hospice.

Listen as these old friends talk about how they met (at a baseball game in upstate NY), how he got into this work after his wife passed, the importance of finding help during this difficult time, and the 5 words you should never say to someone grieving a loss.