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- Featured Speaker Brian Parr, PhD
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- Guest Bio Brian Parr, Ph.D. is an Associate Professor of Exercise and Sports Science at the University of South Carolina Aiken where he teaches undergraduate courses in exercise physiology, research methods, nutrition, and health behaviors. He also conducts research in physical activity and weight control. Dr. Parr is an ACSM member and an ACSM Certified Clinical Exercise Physiologist. Dr. Parr writes a weekly Health & Fitness column for a local newspaper and is a regular contributor to magazines, websites, and professional publications.
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- Host Melanie Cole, MS
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- Featured Speaker Michael F. Bergeron, PhD, FACSM
- Organization ACSM
- Guest Bio Michael F. Bergeron, Ph.D., FACSM is the President & CEO of Youth Sports of the Americas, Birmingham, AL, as well as Executive Director of the National Youth Sports Health & Safety Institute. Internationally recognized for his research and leadership in exercise-heat stress and youth athletic health, Dr. Bergeron is a Fellow and past Trustee of the American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) and served a four-year term as a member of the National Federation of State High School Associations Sports Medicine Advisory Committee. He is also a member of the Medical Advisory Committee for Pop Warner Little Scholars, Inc. and the Academic Advisory Board for the International Olympic Committee postgraduate Diploma Program in Sports Medicine. Dr. Bergeron serves as an Editorial Board member for the International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism and Journal of Athletic Training. He also serves as a clinical and scientific consultant to the Women’s Tennis Association (WTA) professional tour medical services and Heat and Hydration Advisor to Major League Soccer (MLS). Dr. Bergeron has worked with numerous youth, collegiate, and professional athletes on appropriately and safely enhancing athletic capacity and resilience by providing individualized and sport-specific training and nutrition/hydration guidance, with a particular emphasis on preparation, competition, and recovery strategies in the heat and helping athletes to avoid exertional heat illness and injury. Because of his recognized expertise and reputation among athletes, coaches and sport and sports medicine governing bodies, Dr. Bergeron has been regularly featured on myriad national television and radio shows, as well as in numerous online and print media and publications.
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RadioMD Presents: Train Your Body | Original Air Date: April 28, 2015
Host: Melanie Cole, MS
Guest: Michael F. Bergeron, PhD, FACSM
Your trainer Melanie Cole is here to motivate and help you preform. It’s time now for Train Your Body.
MELANIE: If your kids get into sports, as I’m just finding out my son – my daughter has always been a soccer player, always been into it – but my son is just starting to get into it. Really, it’s great for kids. You know that, listeners. You know it’s great for kids. It pulls them away from the video games. I thought it would take away from his school work, but he’s learned to manage his time better so it adds to it. We’re talking about sports. Spring sports, kids and sports, how many should you let you kids do? How overinvolved should they be? My guest is Dr. Michael Bergeron. He’s the president and CEO of Youth Sports of the Americas. So, he is the consummate expert on youth sports.
Dr. Michael, some kids, you have to kick them and push them to get them to play on a team. And some kids just naturally gravitate towards athletics. How many do you let them play? Some of these sports – basketball and soccer, hockey and basketball – they cross over.
DR BERGERON: Melanie, those are all great questions and great concerns. You are not alone. A lot of parents are concerned about the same thing. You asked about really two questions, though. You asked how many sports can a child play, or should they play, but you also asked about how overloaded should they be. That’s really where it begins to become something different. They have to recognize that any child, whether you are talking elementary school or even through high school, has a lot of responsibilities about growth and development, academics, social life, and family life, and all of that. Sports can be a part of that and sports can actually help a large part of it. Now the question really is: Why are the kids playing sports? We all know that a very few are going to be selected to play at a collegiate level, never mind a professional level. More than 90% of kids that play high school sports will never play beyond high school. So, most kids are playing it for different reasons than to get an athletic scholarship or certainly not to be a professional. If that’s the case, then sports should be for fun, should be for fitness, should be for health, and it should give them an opportunity to find the sports that he or she accelerates at or loves. By exposing, or being exposed to a variety of sports, especially early on, it’s really a good thing. It helps the child to find him or herself in the sports that they love. The odd thing is that a variety of sports exposure, especially early is not only more sustainable, not only is healthier; not only is more fun and sociable, it actually develops a better athlete. Many of the best athletes in the world play multiple sports, not only through middle school but through high school as well.
MELANIE: Well, it is interesting that you say that most of these kids will not play through their college years and certainly most of them are not going pro. As someone who as I’ve said before, my son is in gymnastics – of course the kids that followed along and have gone through gymnastics started when they were 3. You look at the little Chinese kids that were taken from their parents to do this. This is something he is strictly doing to get into shape and have fun whereas other sports, like soccer, hockey, and football, they can look toward trying to get scholarships. So, what do you tell them when the kids are so into it and the parents are trying to convince them to cross train or you tell them those statistics about playing in college, but they are insisting that their kids will play in college or get a scholarship? I mean, my son knows that gymnastics is not anything he can be competitive in, but he’s having a great time.
DR BERGERON: Nobody is trying to take away a dream whether it is a college athletic scholarship or whether it is to be at the podium in the Olympics. But again, the pathway to that needs to be sustainable, needs to be healthy and, frankly, needs to be enjoyable. I have spoken to a number of Olympic champions who indicated that it was fun for them. It was the highest priority. When it was no longer fun, as often happened when they got hurt. The very same pathways that allows somebody to enjoy it is really the same pathway to develop champions. People get into trouble when they try to be that champion at 8, 9 or 10 years old versus at thinking 18 or 19. It’s is a long term process, it needs to be variable, it needs to be healthy, there needs to be rest. If you do that, you are giving a kid a chance to be successful at whatever level. All of those kids you see at gymnastics at 3, 4, 5 years old, but what you don’t see is all those that dropped off at 10 or 11 either because of burnout, or injury, or both.
MELANIE: So, that’s exactly right. Burnout is big and if they don’t like the sports that their playing and as a parent you are forcing them to play because you’ve paid for the season. Right there’s a quick question for you. Do you force a kid to finish out a season of a sport that they don’t like?
DR BERGERON: As a parent you know your child better. You know, if there’s really a problem, or do they need a little bit of a push. Again, no child should be playing if their injured or hurting. I think you just need to have that discussion. Is it something that you really hate? We all know the benefits of playing sports, as we said earlier. It can help academics, it can help with fitness, and it can help with all of that. Is there an alternative? There’s lots of ways to approach that, but I think that one of the questions that you answered earlier, too, is should there be rest period, and, yes, there should be. Unless the sports are complimentary. If it is working the body in one way in one season and working the body in another way in another season, that’s a great thing and not so much rest is required, but you can’t be doing one sport the same way year round without running the risk of being hurt. Now, you can be involved in one sport if there’s a variety in the types of training periods where you are not competing all the time. It’s not so clear, as I say, don’t specialize in a sport earlier, do lots of sports. Make sure you are not doing lots of sports at the same time. If you are going to stay with one sport make sure there’s a variation in the training and the competition loads so that the body is able to adapt and recover in a positive way. When you keep loading in the say way, doing the same sport, in the same training mode, and the same activities, the body begins to breakdown. All of a sudden the loading of the body which should be healthy becomes a negative adaptation and begins to have problems.
MELANIE: You know many of our best college and pro athletes did play multiple sports as kids. As you said, the complimentary crossing training – are there certain sports, Dr. Bergeron that you would say to a parent that asked you, “Do not have your children playing these two crossing over, or even in the same year?” Are there certain sports that go together well, like swimming and gymnastics, or figure skating and volleyball? Football and hockey? Maybe, not so much.
DR BERGERON: Well, if you are looking to minimize the head impact exposure maybe football and hockey are not two choices that should be done successively. But, the examples you used are great examples because they are loading the body in a different way. If you are looking at a baseball pitcher who also becomes a quarterback and is taxing the shoulder, perhaps, too much. Tennis as well. Listeners should recognize that multiple sports is good. It helps the participation for a child become more sustainable, healthier more enjoyable. But, as you said, many successful stories at the highest level have done multiple sports. It really does develop a better athlete and if you are going to choose a single sport early make sure there’s variation in the competition, and the training mode, and deliver recovery.
MELANIE: Dr. Mike has given you the best advice, parents, really in getting your kids into sports for the love of the sport. Get them the cross training. If they are going to do just one sport and specialize in it make sure there is some variance. Make sure that the coach knows how to train them in many different ways so that they’re not just going after one thing all the time because that’s how injuries, overuse, and burnout will happen. Look for sports that complement each other as opposed to the same sort of movement like tennis and pitching and quarterback. Try and find those sports that go together well. Then, your children can play a sport in many different seasons and really have a great time and get in shape at the same time. You’re listening to Train Your Body, Motivate and Preform with the American College of Sports right here on radio MD.
Thanks for listening and stay well. - Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received No
- Host Melanie Cole, MS
Additional Info
- Segment Number 1
- Audio File train_your_body/1518tb2a.mp3
- Featured Speaker Michael F. Bergeron, PhD, FACSM
- Organization ACSM
- Guest Bio Michael F. Bergeron, Ph.D., FACSM is the President & CEO of Youth Sports of the Americas, Birmingham, AL, as well as Executive Director of the National Youth Sports Health & Safety Institute. Internationally recognized for his research and leadership in exercise-heat stress and youth athletic health, Dr. Bergeron is a Fellow and past Trustee of the American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) and served a four-year term as a member of the National Federation of State High School Associations Sports Medicine Advisory Committee. He is also a member of the Medical Advisory Committee for Pop Warner Little Scholars, Inc. and the Academic Advisory Board for the International Olympic Committee postgraduate Diploma Program in Sports Medicine. Dr. Bergeron serves as an Editorial Board member for the International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism and Journal of Athletic Training. He also serves as a clinical and scientific consultant to the Women’s Tennis Association (WTA) professional tour medical services and Heat and Hydration Advisor to Major League Soccer (MLS). Dr. Bergeron has worked with numerous youth, collegiate, and professional athletes on appropriately and safely enhancing athletic capacity and resilience by providing individualized and sport-specific training and nutrition/hydration guidance, with a particular emphasis on preparation, competition, and recovery strategies in the heat and helping athletes to avoid exertional heat illness and injury. Because of his recognized expertise and reputation among athletes, coaches and sport and sports medicine governing bodies, Dr. Bergeron has been regularly featured on myriad national television and radio shows, as well as in numerous online and print media and publications.
- Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received No
- Host Melanie Cole, MS
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- Segment Number 4
- Audio File train_your_body/1517tb2d.mp3
- Featured Speaker John P. Higgins MD
- Organization ACSM
- Guest Bio John P. Higgins MD, MBA (Hons), MPHIL, FACC, FACP, FAHA, FACSM, FASNC, FSGC, is a sports cardiologist for The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, Memorial Hermann-Texas Medical Center and the Harris Health System. His research interests include the effects of energy beverages on the body, and screening for underlying cardiovascular abnormalities in 12-year-olds (6th graders), and steroid effects on the cardiovascular system.
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RadioMD Presents: Train Your Body | Original Air Date: April 21, 2015
Host: Melanie Cole, MS
Guest: John P. Higgins, MD
Train Your Body. Here’s Exercise Physiologist, Melanie Cole, M.S.
MELANIE: What do you work out to? What motivates you? If you’re outside walking and you want to look around at the trees and just walk, what music do you play? But if you want to pick up the pace and run, or jog, or you’re at the gym and you need something to get keep you going, what do you play? Well, we’re going to hear some suggestions today from our very own fan favorite, Dr. John Higgins, Sports Cardiologist at UT Health Science Center.
Dr. Higgins, what do you personally like to work out to? Because we are going to go back and forth a little here. Tell me.
JOHN: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, I kind of like…I must say, I’m like a big Top 40 person. So, I like pop music. So, for example, things like Iggy Azalea. You know, I mean, lots of kind of stuff that is just hitting the airwaves right now. So, I generally, and in particular, I do like songs that have a really thumping and strong beat kind of thing to them, Melanie. And as well as some old favorites as well. I, too, you know, when I…..
MELANIE: What are some of your old favorites, Dr. Higgins? What are you talking about?
JOHN: Oh, things like “Go West”. You know those sort of, “Go West”--things that are funny there and those sort of songs. As well as, Duran Duran. You know-- some Duran Duran to get things moving. Bruce Springsteen, those sort of things. But I must say those, I kind of, I keep certain songs for, as you were alluding to Melanie, for kind of certain things. So, for example I might have a song that is a faster tempo, when I want to be doing a little bit more of a tempo run and going faster. Whereas, if I am at 16 miles into a long run and I am kind of like just wanting something to get me there, I might have something that will, with words like something along the lines of “don’t give up”, or “stay strong”. You know? That sort of stuff.
MELANIE: Well, there are songs definitely that motivate and then, in all of my research about what songs people like, “Eye of the Tiger” by Survivor came out as one of the very top.
JOHN: Oh, “Eye of the Tiger”. Yes.
MELANIE: I’m going to give you some of my list, Dr. Higgins, because I love “Eye of the Tiger”. I do. For me, “Walking on Sunshine” gets me going every time, by Katrina and the Waves. And Chicago has a song called “Feeling Stronger”. It’s a bit of an old song but even my kids get motivated because at the end, it just picks up, it changes and at the end of the song, it’s just feeling stronger every day and the tempo picks up and it’s got this momentum that is just amazing. So, by Chicago, “Feeling Stronger Every Day”.
JOHN: Awesome.
MELANIE: “Jump” by Van Halen is a great, great one.
JOHN: Oh, yeah.
MELANIE: The Cubs used that in 1984. There are some others that are more, as you say, Dr. Higgins, emotional, like “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough” by Marvin Gaye.
JOHN: Yeah.
MELANIE: Things that might turn you into, you know, I’m feeling great, I can do anything and instead of just running, you might dance around or jump around. So, what do you think of some of those?
JOHN: Oh, yeah. Yeah. No definitely, Melanie, in fact, a lot of the studies that they’ve done, the songs that seem to be the ones that get the best results are those that the person, the studies where they let the person pick, their favorite songs--the ones that they really enjoyed, rather than assign them songs that they thought might stimulate them or energize them. So, you’re exactly right, Melanie. It’s what you like, will put you in the great mood, will motivate you to go further, to delay your fatigue and get you really into the…..[INAUDIBLE 04.07.1].
MELANIE: Sure. I mean that is the whole point of music really. You know “We are the Champions” by Queen. People always think of that. You know, they’re gonna, they’re gonna do something. You know, “We Will Rock You”. And actually they say that song actually affects your heart rate. Is there any truth to that, Dr. Higgins? Can a song actually affect your heartbeat as you are listening to it?
JOHN: Yes. There is, actually. Melanie, there have been a couple of studies on that and they’ve found that there are certain songs, again, depending on the significance of the song for that person, that can cause you to breathe faster and for your heartbeat to speed up so absolutely, Melanie. Yes.
MELANIE: Wow. That’s kind of amazing. And, then, you even hear James Brown singing “I Feel Good”. Or, I know that mine are a little bit—you’re more pop music guy and I’m more rock music person. You know?
JOHN: Yeah.
MELANIE: So, it’s whatever kind of motivates you, but there are songs that, generally, if you look up the studies, you look up the lists, these are songs that just really get everybody going. Another one that I want to mention “It’s a Beautiful Day” by U2. They’re not my favorite band but that song in particular. “It’s a Beautiful Day”. It’s great.
JOHN: Oh, actually that’s on my list for when I am getting pumped up for running, too. “Beautiful Day” is definitely, that’s an awesome one. It really, there’s something about the beat and the words that you can really relate to.
MELANIE: Well, it is. It’s a great way to get yourself going , get your music going and of course the Rocky theme we mentioned, “Eye of the Tiger” but “Going to Fly Now”. You know, Rocky, all those kinds of things. When you look at a movie and you see somebody really working out and getting really, you know, getting all pumped up and doing all of these things. So, Dr. Higgins, give us a few more of yours before we’re out of time today.
JOHN: Well, I think the Rolling Stones’ “Satisfaction”, that’s a good one that, that can really get you going. I also like Owl City. You know, Owl City is kind of a smaller band that they, their songs have really kind of cool words to their songs. I, generally, like most of the, like I said, most of the pop stuff that is out there. And, Melanie, you know, we talked about the fact that these are motivating. They decrease fatigue. They also arouse people. They get people ready to exercise. They improve their coordination. I mean, there have been studies that show that people can do the exercise better and trainers use this as well. You know, as we talked about, we were talking about before the fact, that using the music to a training routine can actually help people with their timing and ultimately all of these things. As long as that increases people’s activity and improves exercise adherence, that‘s what we want as healthcare professionals out there. But there are a couple of things that I just want to warn people that if, obviously, if they are out on a really busy street with lots of roads that they are going to be crossing, sometimes safety is an important thing, Melanie, that they need to consider and so that they don’t…
MELANIE: So, you don’t want the music too loud or too distracting.
JOHN: Right.
MELANIE: You know? And one of the songs, “Thunder Struck”. It’s by AC/DC. AC/DC has some pretty motivating … “Back in Black” and Talking Heads’ “Burning Down the House.” Some of these are so kind of rowdy that I get what you’re saying, Dr. Higgins, because you can absolutely just be cranking them…
JOHN: Yes.
MELANIE: …and walking across the street and not even look at the fact that there’s car turning. You know? And that has happened to me, so listeners take heed to what he’s saying because it is important.
JOHN: Right. And, Melanie, one last thing, too, to say is that we have a lot of these songs that will pump you up, but sometimes you can use music to also really relax you after you’ve had a workout or you want to just get into some relaxation and meditation. And some of those slower songs, and really melodic songs like by Cold Play and some of those other bands, Enya. You know, they can really get you to relax as well and we know that not only is exercise good for the heart but also we know it is also important to be able to relax and take some time out to help your heart as well.
MELANIE: It’s great information. We’ve mentioned a lot of songs and as Dr. Higgins said sometimes you want the songs to then cool you down. You want them to help relax you. You can use them for while you are doing yoga, while you are warming down, cooling down, while you’re stretching at the end of the workout, but at the beginning of the workout you want some music to really pump you. You want to get going. Get something to really motivate you. Just be safe. Look around. Know your surroundings. Don’t just be so into your music that you don’t see that someone is waiting on the treadmill or the elliptical or there’s a car turning on the street, if you are working out outside. But music can be one of the best personal trainers out there so I just want you to hear that and know that. As a trainer for so many years, music can be your best personal trainer so try “Walking on Sunshine”. Try Chicago’s “Feeling Stronger Every Day”. See what those do for you.
You are listening to Train Your Body. Motivate and perform right here with RadioMD. This is Melanie Cole.
Thanks so much for listening and stay well. - Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received No
- Host Melanie Cole, MS
Additional Info
- Segment Number 3
- Audio File train_your_body/1517tb2c.mp3
- Featured Speaker John P. Higgins, MD
- Organization ACSM
- Guest Bio John P. Higgins MD, MBA (Hons), MPHIL, FACC, FACP, FAHA, FACSM, FASNC, FSGC, is a sports cardiologist for The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, Memorial Hermann-Texas Medical Center and the Harris Health System. His research interests include the effects of energy beverages on the body, and screening for underlying cardiovascular abnormalities in 12-year-olds (6th graders), and steroid effects on the cardiovascular system.
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RadioMD Presents: Train Your Body | Original Air Date: April 21, 2015
Host: Melanie Cole, MS
Guest: John P. Higgins, MD
Your trainer, Melanie Cole, is here to motivate and help you perform. It's time now for Train Your Body.
MELANIE: So, you know they say you shouldn’t sit all day. “They”. I am one of the “they”. But they say you shouldn’t sit all day and people have experimented with standing desks and all kinds of things. Well, today we are talking about treadmill desks and my questions are going to be, can you still be productive?
My guest today, fan favorite, Dr. John Higgins, Sports Cardiologist at the UT Health Science Center in Houston.
So Dr. Higgins…treadmill desks…great in theory. I've seen them. I've tried them. But do they work productivity wise? Can you get stuff done? Do you start to stink? Are they really office friendly?
JOHN: Yes, well those are excellent questions, Melanie, and we will try to tackle those today. I think this new study which I wanted to briefly discuss looks at a kind of new approach to fitting a treadmill desk into a work place. So what they did in this office, they had about 40 office workers who were on average age about 40. And what they did instead of getting everyone a treadmill desk which is, you know hot, and sweaty. You know, it's a lot of work during the day. People burn out quickly. What they did is they actually just got one treadmill desk station and then they used the Microsoft Outlook scheduler and what they wanted was that each person in the workplace had to put in 45 minutes on a regular basis. You know, at least every day or every other day on the treadmill desk. And they would often have it set up next to another standing desk so that the person, for example, would schedule a meeting with someone. They would be walking on their treadmill desk while they were talking to the other person or persons in the office. And that way, what they were able to accomplish is not only getting people up out of the chairs--the person on the treadmill as well as the people standing next to them who were in the meeting with them--but also they were able to significantly increase the amount of exercise and activity in these folks. So this....and it wasn't, they did not have the burnout that other articles have shown where they've just basically come in and said, “Okay, no one's sitting anymore.”. And what happened in a lot of those studies were that people burned out after a short period of time and were kind of leaning on their treadmills and just not walking and kind of converting their treadmills into more like a high chair.
MELANIE: Well, you can lean and the thing is, I've been reading some studies and some articles too, Dr. Higgins.
JOHN: Yes.
MELANIE: Standing desks, I don't really love. I love to stand a little but my blood, you know, I don't want to get blood pooling and then you have to move around. Standing all day isn't that great anyway if you're standing in one place.
JOHN: Exactly.
MELANIE: So, okay we all agree that the treadmill desks can burn more calories and do all of that but what about using a mouse, what about taking a meeting, what about typing an email? Are these things--our own Dr. Mike Rozen says he uses a treadmill desk, but how efficient can you be in that 45 minutes that you're doing it? Can you actually get your work done? Talk on the phone to a client without sounding like you are running down the hall even if you're walking slow?
JOHN: No. That is an excellent question, Melanie. And what the treadmill desk--how they differ from regular treadmills at the gym is that most of them don't have any type of slope on them for starts. So, they don't…They typically are flat and they're also designed to run under two miles an hour. So, a lot of people find they can walk very comfortably and easily at, for example, one mile an hour which is a very slow walking pace. And what they do is they have adjustments made for not only where the computer, for example, and the writing material is that you would use with built-in suspension, but they also have special ergonomic keyboards. Some of them that will, in fact, help you to do your work given the fact that you are going to be having a little bit of motion, as well as some of them do have the voice command operations as well. So, certainly there are some things that seem like you can do fairly easily. Particularly if you're going relatively slowly, you can carry on--you should be able to carry on--a conversation. In fact, they want you to be able to carry on a conversation while you are on the treadmill desk. So, there are some kinds of ways around some of those things, Melanie, and, of course, they are getting better and better in terms of how to interact between you and your computer whereby you can minimize the amount of actual finger contact.
MELANIE: Well, so okay. So, maybe the voice that's a great idea and explaining the situation to your employees. Now what about the sort of sweat factor? You know…do you… Would this change the dress code at work? You know? So, now we're in short and t-shirts at work because you can't really walk in a suit or that sort of thing and then maintain your business look all day.
JOHN: Yes. No, I agree with you, Melanie. I think they need to… If you are going to have something like this at work, you will need to have people, for example, using different types of shoes most of the time at a minimum and then also have a…probably have at least you know some sort of shower facility at work. Another approach is, of course, that a lot of places have is they have a type of gym. There are a lot of works that have like mini gyms that they have set up as well as a walking track or running track, either inside or outside of the office. So any way we can get people out of their chairs, because again there have been a number of studies that have just come up recently with the fact that the longer the time you spend sitting in the chair and, in fact, they are even talking about the fact that you probably shouldn't be spending more than an hour just sitting there without getting up because it seems to be a risk factor for metabolic as well as heart problems. So, this is certainly something that can help with that. But you are right. There have got to be changes that happen at the workplace.
MELANIE: They have got be able to allow for those kinds of things. Maybe keep a cleaning station. Now Dr. Higgins, there's a Dutch design firm that did a project of a work environment not based on tables and desks, but leaning. And I don't know if you have seen this but it is fascinating to me and their work space is in all different angles so that you are not just standing having blood pooling but you are leaning. You are leaning back. You are leaning forward.
JOHN: Wow.
MELANIE: And there is support in all different angles so you can lean sideways, or you can lean forward, or you can be on your knees, or stand. And so, do you think that the future of workplaces is going to change as we realize that the health benefits of moving around instead of just sitting locked in a cubicle at your desk and the dangers of that.
JOHN: Absolutely. I think there are a number of things that…We know that not only does sitting on the chair give people heart issues in terms of increasing their risk of heart attack as well as obesity, but also, most of the chairs that are at work are not ergonomically designed chairs and so people are going to run into all sorts of problems with back pain, arthritis, etc. from them. So, having a total environment like you described, Melanie, where it not only allows activity but also stimulates improved posture and makes sure that you are getting the right amount of usage of different muscles in your bodies and stress on the different joints not just all being, you know, on a small group of joints which is currently what I think is happening in a lot of situations for most people that go to work and just sit in the same place. They have the same lean and oftentimes, like you mentioned, Melanie, their posture is not that great.
MELANIE: Well it's certainly is something for corporations to look at. And if you're somebody who wants to try it out, maybe ask your boss. See if you can get one in for a trial and have everybody try it out in the office and see what it's like to see if you can be productive and see how it works. Anything that you do, like Dr. Higgins says, that gets you up out of your desk--you shouldn't be there for much longer than one hour in the whole day--is going to be better for you than just sitting there the whole day.
You're listening to Train Your Body. This is Melanie Cole. Thanks so much for listening to RadioMD and stay well. - Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received No
- Host Melanie Cole, MS
Additional Info
- Segment Number 2
- Audio File train_your_body/1517tb2b.mp3
- Featured Speaker MIchele Stanten
- Organization ACSM
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Guest Bio
Michele Tanten, a walking coach (mywalkingcoach.com) and ACE-certified fitness instructor, has been inspiring and motivating people to get active for more than 20 years.
Michele is the author of Firm Up in 3 Weeks and Walk Off Weight, and co-author of Walk Your Butt Off! As the former Fitness Director of Prevention magazine, she created a marathon walking program and coached thousands of readers to walk full and half marathons across the country.Michele has also produced and appeared in more than a dozen exercise DVDs and created numerous audio workouts.
Michele has been a presenter at the ACSM Health & Fitness Summit, serves on the Board of Directors for ACE, and is a member of the Every Body Walks Collaborative. She has written for a variety of publications, including Self, More, Weight Watchers, and Shape magazines. Her numerous media appearances include The Today Show, Good Morning America, The Biggest Loser, CNN, USA Today, and NPR. -
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RadioMD Presents: Train Your Body | Original Air Date: April 14, 2015
Host: Melanie Cole, MS
Guest: Michele Stanten
Train your body. Here's exercise physiologist, Melanie Cole, MS.
MELANIE: Boy, you're in great shape in your 30's and your 20's. You go to step class. You do Zumba; you can do Boot Camp; you can do, you know, plyometrics. You can really crank on the Stairmaster, the treadmill, the elliptical and you feel great. So, if you're somebody that exercises in your 30's, you work out with a trainer, maybe you don't, whatever it is you do, what changes as you get older? What do you have to change? Do you change something? Are there things that you change up? Reduce? Things that you add on?
My guest today is Michele Stanton. She's a walking coach and A Certified fitness instructor.
Welcome to the show, Michele.
MICHELE: Hi.
MELANIE: So, in our thirties. God, you feel great. That's the baby-making years. We're all in great shape. Stuff doesn't start to hurt and head downward yet. So, what changes as we get older in our exercise routines?
MICHELE: Right. And it's easier to keep the pounds off or to lose weight.
MELANIE: Lots easier.
MICHELE: A lot changes and if you're exercising in your 30's, you're going to delay some of these changes that are happening, but our metabolism starts to go down 1-2% every decade after the age of 20. We start to lose muscle mass, 3-5% after the age of 30 per decade, especially if you're not exercising. The loss of muscle mass is really a big thing here, because as you lose that, you burn fewer calories throughout the day, so guess what? You're going to gain weight easier. It's going to make weight loss harder and as you're losing that muscle mass, you're becoming weaker, so everyday activities become harder as we get older, so you really want to maintain that muscle. It's going to help to keep it more active. We start to lose bone, 1% per year after age 35, and then, when we hit menopause in that 40-50's, that increases to 2-3% and then you're at more risk for osteoporosis or a bone break if you fall. So, there are a lot of changes that are happening. Exercise is really key to slow these down or even turn some of them around as you get older.
MELANIE: Absolutely. As you and I discussed before, there are things that you add on and things that you might need to take away. So, some of the more hard impact things, you know? I'm in my 50's, just became in my 50's, so past that actual point.
MICHELE: I'm right behind you.
MELANIE: I do notice some differences.
MICHELE: Yes.
MELANIE: I notice some things. It burns a little more quickly. I feel my knees after a certain number of squats. You know? You just feel things. I'm more tired. You know? So, what do we have to reduce and then tell us the more positive. What do we add on?
MICHELE: Well, joint problems and those muscle strains tend to increase as we get older. Some of the keys there are minimizing some of that impact with activities. That doesn't mean you have to stop higher impact activities like running or, you know, Boot Camps are kind of in that, too, but you want to reduce them. You want to add, maybe, some more rest days in between. Don't do all those high intensity, high impact workouts on back to back days. Give yourself a day break where you do something like a yoga class or a spin class where it might be high intensity, but it's joint friendly. So you want to protect those joints and give them the time. As we get older, it takes us a little longer to recover. So, we need longer rest periods than we might have in our 30's. Another big key there is making sure that you're warming up and cooling down. A lot of times, in our 30's we just rush in, get that workout in and then rush out at the end without taking the time stretch, without warming up and those key parts of your workout are going to make the majority of your workout feel much better. Your muscles are going to feel better. Your joints are going to feel better because you gave them that transition from being inactive to working out versus just jumping right in. Then, that's when our bodies start screaming at us. So, don't skip your warmups and your cool downs.
MELANIE: Absolutely. That's very important. What do you do to add on to things? To make it so that it's like, you know, you see things change in your body, Michele and in your 30's, you could do all those things and you weren't targeting specific spots. I mean, maybe you were because you wanted toned glutes and all this.
MICHELE: Yes.
MELANIE: But, now, you're kind of looking at preventing cancer. Your goals are different.
MICHELE: Absolutely.
MELANIE: You're looking at keeping the boobs up a little bit. You're keeping the back of the arms from shaking around when you wave hi to somebody. So, now you've got sort of goals.
MICHELE: Yes.
MELANIE: Things you want to accomplish.
MICHELE: And that is one of many, many reasons that if you are not currently strength training, you really need to start when you're in your 50's. Strength training, lifting weights, doing body weight exercises like planks and pushups and squats. Those are the exercises that are going to start slow that muscle loss and, believe it or not, you can build some of the muscle loss that you might have already lost. You can rebuild it. So, you're going to get stronger and it's going to tone those areas. You're going to get stronger. You're going to strengthen those muscles around the joints, so you'll be less likely to get joint pain. You're going to protect those joints from injuries. So, again, probably the number one thing that you can do in your 50's, if you're no already, is strength training.
If you're already strength training, a key is to make sure—one of the things that I find that women do all the time is they use weights that are way too light.
MELANIE: I see that too.
MICHELE: Uni-weights. You're not going to rebuild that muscle with 2 and 3 pound weights. Think about what you do during the day. The grocery bags that you lug, the suitcase that you hoist up into the overhead compartment on the airplane. Okay. You can do that. You can pick up 10 or 12, 15, even 20 pound weights for some of the exercises and that's what you need to do to rebuild some of that muscle. So, start strength training. If you're already doing it, have a trainer work with you or look at your workout and kind of up the intensity so that you're getting those benefits. At this stage, though you really need to make sure that you're using proper form. So, having somebody instruct you on the exercises or build the program for you can be really beneficial to avoiding injuries and getting results.
MELANIE: Well, one thing that I've noticed as a trainer for 25 years. If I'm working with somebody in their 30's and I give them like a pelvic tilt or a lift, you know, a gluteal bridge, one of those kind of things, they look at me and roll their eyeballs. “Really? You're giving me this exercise?” But, you give it to someone in their 50's, 60's, 90's, they're like “It feels so good on my back. Oh that feels great,” and they want to stretch it and they want to feel that. So, some of the exercises that you're going to do just feel good and you know that you're doing them and they feel like they're stretching or working something that needs to be stretched or worked whereas, somebody in their 30's doesn't want a feel good exercise, they want a results oriented exercise.
MICHELE: Yes. Keep in mind those feel good exercises can produce results, too.
MELANIE: Absolutely.
MICHELE: Some are going to be more visible than others. Those bridges and pelvic tilts are strengthening those core muscles which are really key to keeping our posture as we get older, we kind of get that forward lean from being hunched over our computers and the steering wheel in the car. So, you want to be doing exercises that open up your chest. Yoga is a great exercise as we are getting older, you get that stretching because as we get older, everything kind of stiffens up. So, the stretching, you get strengthening with yoga, just getting more in touch with your body, so you're noticing when something might hurt and, you know, listening to your body at this age. Back in our 30's, we kind of pushed through that pain a lot of times, but as you're getting older, you don't want to do that. You really want to listen to your body and back off if you need to when something's hurting.
MELANIE: That's important. We only have about a minute left, Michele, but some of the exercises that we do with a different goal—a goal toward preventing cancer or heart disease, so we're looking towards cardiovascular exercises or, as you say, strength training to prevent osteoporosis.
MICHELE: Right.
MELANIE: The goal is different. So, in this last just half a minute or so, wrap it up for us as our exercise routines change as we age.
MICHELE: You definitely want to continue doing your cardio. You might want to, like I said, bring it down to a lower impact depending on what you're doing and how your joints feel, but keep moving. The most important thing is to keep moving. If you're exercising, you're going to a Zumba class, you're going to a spin class or you’re going out for walks, you're getting that cardio; that is great. Also, keep in mind you need to be moving throughout the day. There's more and more research showing that if you sit too much, you're still doing damage to your body and, especially as we get older, that increases your risk for diseases. So, in addition to your workout sessions, get up, move around, take a walk. You know, break up your day so that you're not sitting in that chair so much which, as we get older, becomes even more detrimental to our health.
MELANIE: Great advice. So, your exercise routine changes a bit, but you can change with it and keep healthier as you age. It's not that hard.
You're listening to Train Your Body.
This is Melanie Cole.
Stay well. - Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received No
- Host Melanie Cole, MS
Additional Info
- Segment Number 1
- Audio File train_your_body/1517tb2a.mp3
- Featured Speaker Michele Stanten
- Organization ACSM
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Guest Bio
Michele Stanten, a walking coach (mywalkingcoach.com) and ACE-certified fitness instructor, has been inspiring and motivating people to get active for more than 20 years.
Michele is the author of Firm Up in 3 Weeks and Walk Off Weight, and co-author of Walk Your Butt Off! As the former Fitness Director of Prevention magazine, she created a marathon walking program and coached thousands of readers to walk full and half marathons across the country.Michele has also produced and appeared in more than a dozen exercise DVDs and created numerous audio workouts.
Michele has been a presenter at the ACSM Health & Fitness Summit, serves on the Board of Directors for ACE, and is a member of the Every Body Walks Collaborative. She has written for a variety of publications, including Self, More, Weight Watchers, and Shape magazines. Her numerous media appearances include The Today Show, Good Morning America, The Biggest Loser, CNN, USA Today, and NPR. -
Transcription
RadioMD Presents: Train Your Body | Original Air Date: April 14, 2015
Host: Melanie Cole, MS
Guest: Michele Stanten
Your trainer, Melanie Cole, is here to motivate and help you perform. It's time now for Train Your Body.
MELANIE: So, you like to exercise. You like to stay fit and eat healthy. What if your spouse or partner or loved one is not kind of on the same page as you? How do you get to be on the same page? You see those couples out walking after dinner and you see those people that are working next to each other on treadmills on the gym and you wonder, how did they get...Did they find somebody like-minded or were they together and then they got each other on the same kind of program?
My guest today is Michele Stanton. She's a walking coach and an A Certified fitness instructor who's been inspiring and motivating people to get active for more than 20 years.
Welcome to the show, Michele.
So, when we see those people out walking at night and we want to be those people and get your spouse out. “Come on, let's go out after dinner.” “No way. I'm sitting here having a beer. I want to watch my TV show.” How do we get on the same page with our loved ones?
MICHELE: Hi. Thanks. It's great to be here. Well, there's a couple of different strategies. First and foremost nagging, bribing and insulting don't work, okay? When we keep trying to get them to pick up their socks out of the floor, put the toilet seat down, all the reminders, all the nagging, do they change? Usually not. So, it's not going to work with exercise. But, we do know that by you continuing with your health habits, that can influence them. There's a lot of research out there showing that friends and families and spouses can influence the exercise and eating habits of the people that are closest to them. So, most importantly, continue doing what you're doing. Don't let their bad habits influence you so that you start to do less.
MELANIE: That's great advice. So, you don't want their bad habits to turn around back on you. But, you're right, nagging doesn't work and badgering and “Come on. Come on. Come on.”
MICHELE: Right.
MELANIE: So, role modeling. If they see you eating healthy, going to bed early, only having one glass of wine, exercising, doing all those things, and that's not enough to motivate them just by role modeling, what do you do to get them to do it with you?
MICHELE: Well, there's a couple of things that we'll talk about. I want to add one thing on to that and that is that keep it up because there was just a recent study that came out that some of that influence, as you get older, gets stronger. There was a study where they looked at couples over years and what they found at the beginning of the study, these were middle-aged couples, so their kids had grown. That's the other thing, depending on the stage of your life, it can be harder or easier to influence your spouse. So, as you're getting older and the kids are older, you don't have as many of those responsibilities. They found that when they interviewed the couples at the beginning of the study, if the wife exercised when they checked back with these couples over six years, 70% of the husbands who were not exercising at the beginning, started exercising. And if it was the husband who was exercising in the beginning, 40% of the wives started to exercise over that 6 year period. So, there's still hope. So, again, keep up that role modeling. But, if that's not working, you want to start to influence, you don't want to wait until after the kids are older. Start by talking to them. Be honest. Let them know why you're concerned, why you want them to exercise. Is it because you want to spend more time together? You see it is an opportunity. It might be that you want them around. You want them to be healthy so that you can retire together and do all those exciting trips you talked about. Maybe it's that you see that the stress from their job is having a negative influence. So, be honest and hope and let them know why you're concerned and focus on health. Don't focus on weight or appearances, because that may just make them feel more ashamed. They may go on the defensive. So, be honest with them and then ask them. You know, find out what's stopping them. What are some of their obstacles? They may be willing to open up or not, but at least you're getting out your reasons.
MELANIE: Well, I think also, especially if they don't have life insurance, it's really more important than crying and doing all those kinds of things which may or may not work. So, threats might work as well to say, “You don't have life insurance, you better exercise or else,” you know? Those kinds of things. Then, if they have life insurance, I guess you don't really have to worry about it. No, I'm just kidding.
Okay. So, go on, Michele, because these are great bits of advice is to say, keep role modeling and to see those studies does give us hope.
MICHELE: Right. Talk to them. See if you can find out what their idea of exercise is. What they would like to do. Keep in mind that your idea of exercise might be very different from theirs. You might be going to the gym, you might be doing a spin class, you might be lifting weights. They might not be interested in that. So, kind of broaden your scope of exercise and invite them to do things like go for a walk, play tennis, find another couple and go play tennis. If they used to maybe play golf, offer to go and play golf with them. Ride your bikes. Make it about spending time together and having fun, not about exercising for health benefits. So, focus on that fun aspect and pick some things that maybe they're better than you are at or something that they can teach you how to do. Like, if they used to golf, get them out golfing, just leave the cart back at the clubhouse and walk the greens.
MELANIE: Well, that's great and do you think that it's good advice to find out why? Are they not exercising because being told that they should do something is like nagging from their wife or are they looking at you and saying, “Oh, you think you're so great because you exercise and go to the gym?” Is there a reason to delve deeper into the psyche of why they're not doing it?
MICHELE: Absolutely. If you can get some of that information out of them. You know your spouse the best in terms of how willing they're going to be, but maybe don't make it a confrontation, but every once in a while, ask some questions or ask about an activity and kind of, you know, little bits and pieces, kind of chip away at trying to understand where they're at with exercise. Maybe they have an injury. Maybe something's bothering them. Maybe they used to love to run, but now because of their knees, they can't, so they don't feel like walking is good enough exercise. When you can start to find those things out, then that's where you can offer up some information. Even along the way, letting them know that just a little bit can make a big difference. We have so much research out there that even going for a 10 minute walk can reduce stress, boost your mood. You know, multiple short bouts of exercise throughout the day have the same effect as one longer bout in terms of reducing your risk for heart disease, lowering your risk for diabetes. You know, helping you to sleep better. So, sharing some of that information with them that every little bit counts can help.
MELANIE: Well, I think I agree with you that it can help in encouraging those small steps.
MICHELE: Absolutely.
MELANIE: Getting started just little bits at the beginning, but how do you avoid, and this is a problem I have personally, and I don't know about you, but anybody in our business how do you avoid feeling like the personal trainer?
MICHELE: Yes.
MELANIE: You know, “Come on. Let's walk. You'll love it.” Or, “Come on. Let's do this. Let's dance around the living room. Let's do some squats. Come for a walk with me.” Sounding like the personal trainer because that may not be what they want.
MICHELE: Absolutely. Again, you know your spouse the best, so you need to kind of feel that out. In those cases, then, kind of back off. Focus more on those fun aspects. You know, another thing there, in terms of those little bits count, if they are somebody who's interested in technology and gadgets, the activity monitors could be a great place to start if they would be willing to wear one. Then, you don't really have to say anything. You know, give it to them or mention it to them and let them start to see where they're starting and then how things can add up. Let that be kind of the trainer for them so you don't have to be.
MELANIE: That's great advice. Giving it to them in a non-condescending way. In a way that makes them feel like it is an actual gift and you want them to be around. You have about 30 seconds here, Michele. 45 seconds or so. Wrap it up for us.
MICHELE: Well, the other thing that I would say is share success stories with them. If you know of friends or spouses of friends, other people who have great benefits, the things that they've gotten out of exercise. Again, randomly share those examples with them and that way, they'll get to see how beneficial it is for other people and that will, hopefully, encourage them to do it, too.
MELANIE: Absolutely. That's the way to really take those small steps. Get your spouse involved, your loved one involved in the exercise program and routine that you love so much and without feeling like their personal trainer. Without being condescending or nagging, you can get your whole family to exercise. You can make it a competition. People love competition. So, try it. Try and get everybody involved because that's the way you can all get healthy as a family.
You're listening to Train Your Body right here on RadioMD.
This is Melanie Cole.
Stay well. - Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received No
- Host Melanie Cole, MS
Additional Info
- Segment Number 2
- Audio File train_your_body/1516tb2b.mp3
- Featured Speaker Neal Pire & Grace DeSimone
- Organization ACSM
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Guest Bio
Neal Pire is a nationally noted expert on fitness and personal training. He is a Fellow of the American College of Sports Medicine and has served on the Executive Council of ACSM's credentialing arm, the Committee on Certification and Registry Boards. Neal served as vice president of a leading national health management company and now serves as an Exercise Physiologist at HNH Fitness, a medical fitness center in Oradell, NJ. He is widely sought after as a consultant for athlete training programs, performance enhancement centers and fitness industry management. As a 35-year veteran with deep understanding of the subject matter, he is often asked for background, commentary or analysis by media covering wellness, fitness, and personal training.
Grace DeSimone has been in the fitness industry for over 30 years and brings a variety of experiences in commercial, corporate and community settings. She is the editor of ACSMs Resources for Group Exercise Instructors (LWW, 2011) and is an ACSM certified personal trainer and group exercise instructor. Grace is the National Director of Group Fitness for Plus One Health Management, an Optum Company. -
Transcription
RadioMD Presents: Train Your Body | Original Air Date: April 14, 2015
Host: Melanie Cole, MS
Guests: Neal Pire & Grace DeSimone
Your trainer Melanie Cole is here to motivate and help you perform. It’s time now for Train Your Body.
MELANIE: Are all exercises "one size fits all" or are there certain exercises for women and certain exercises for men? On He Said/She Said today, we've got Grace DeSimone, National Director of Group Fitness for Plus One Health Management, an Optum company. We want to make sure to say that. And Neal Pire, exercise physiologist at HNH Fitness, a medical fitness center in Oradell, New Jersey.
So, guys. Let's start with you, Grace. Women's exercises: your favorite exercises and give brief descriptions of them.
GRACE: Here we go. Ready, girls?
MELANIE: Yes.
GRACE: Number one: squats. Why? Because you have to sit on the toilet and get up. You need to sit in chairs and get up. If you want to practice your squats, do just that. Sit down and get up. Ideally, you do so without using your hands. That would be your ultimate goal. When you get good at that, instead of actually touching your tushy to the seat, you warm the seat with your butt and then you stand up and there you have a really great squat. Number two is a bridge. Laying on your back, putting your feet underneath your knees and you're tilting your tail and squeezing your glutes and coming up and going down. That's one of the 10 best exercises for women and I'm going to give you a bonus on that one. Do a Kegel.
MELANIE: I was going to say that! I was right there with you. I'm like, "A bonus for that bridging, for that pelvic tilt and lift is to add in a Kegel right there and just kind of squeeze it all up and work on that." Okay, keep going.
GRACE: Then, we have a plank, okay? I know Neal's going to go over some modifications for a plank which I'm all about and everybody knows that's like a push-up position. You can also do it on your forearms and you're either on your knees or your toes and you're using that to train the abdominals and core muscles. Then, rowing. You can do this holding one hand onto a table and leaning forward and with the other hand, you can be rowing your purse; you can be rowing laundry detergent. Anything that has a little weight to it. You can take a bunch of cans and bricks and put them in a shopping bag and row that up and down to strengthen those back muscles for your posture. Then, I'll give you a special one that I really like and I call it the coughing exercise. You're going to get down on your hands and knees, on all fours and you're going to cough. Just let out a big cough and I want you to feel which muscle deep in the belly does that. That special muscle is called your transverse abdominal muscle. It's way beyond the six pack. I tell you this, if you've ever hurt your back, you don't care how your abdominals look. You care that your back hurts, so these muscles help to control and support the spine. They will also help train the abdominal muscles in. So, while you're on all fours and you practice coughing, it'll teach you where those muscles are and how to engage them. Once you're good at that, you'll be able to recruit those muscles when you say, "Muscles! I need you now." Draw in. It's part of a deeper understanding of core and it'll also do that and do your Kegels and you won't be losing anything when you cough either. You know, I always say to people, "You won't care about your abs when you're wetting your pants," or something like that. But, for women doing those core muscles and getting really into the deep musculature will help a lot. Those are my fab five.
MELANIE: Rock on! I love every single one of those. Neal, over to you for men.
NEAL: What a perfect segway to transverse abdominus. I'm going to start with plank progression which, again, focuses on the importance of the core and those deep muscles around the spine, the abdomen, the trunk that help give you what we call proximal stability or stability in the center, around the center of gravity, that allows to move our limbs out so we have mobility outward from the arms and legs, etc. Plank progression starting on both toes and you're elbows, which is your standard plank. Progressions where you can lift one foot off the ground, perhaps a foot, and the opposite arm—contralateral arm for balance. Those exercises are so crucial to having that stability around the spine to prevent lower back pain and other issues that we so commonly have. As much as I love the squat, I'm going to give you a something a little different—the dead lift. Picking up something off the ground, whether it's a child or a bag of groceries or, you know, that's a real-life activity. Dead lifts with your feet parallel, reaching down, holding the dumbbells bars, a kettle bell, medicine bell, whatever it is, and lifting it up. You're having a nice, stable, neutral spine during the whole movement. The next movement, let's go from bilateral to unilateral where you're stabilizing one hip at a time, instead of squats, I'll go to step ups, using either a box as your elevated foot or, even a step if you have a step in your apartment or your house, step onto the other step and then lift the other leg opposite. What that forces you to do is stabilize one hip at a time, which is the way we function on a daily basis, going up and down stairs, walking, running, etc.
The next thing I like doing is pulling and pushing. Because we have so many rotator cuff issues, us guys as we get older, it's very common to have rotator cuff weakness and pain. The pulling motion really sort of counters what we do all day long which is usually our pecs shortening and tightening, our shoulders get a little tighter and we have rounded shoulders. Doing pulling motions actually help pull the shoulders back and work the external rotators of the shoulder joint which help keep your rotator cuff healthy and strong. So, pull-ups or pull downs are the ideal type of exercise. Opposing that movement, press-ups where you're not necessarily doing a military press-up with the elbows out to the side, but closer to the front, a more natural angle that you would use for picking up something from the counter and placing it up in the cupboard or that kind of thing. My key recommendation here is to always start your exercises with a dynamic warm up because mobility is so important and is something we always lose. Doing a dynamic warm up that includes stuff like skipping and side shuffling and a grapevine type of movement where you step in front and in back, in front and in back, moving laterally, those types of movements help maintain mobility. At the end of your workout, you finish with a total body progressive stretch to maintain your flexibility. Something different than mobility.
MELANIE: So, neither one of you mentioned lunges and back lunges and side lunges and doing lunges with lateral raise or lunges with bicep curl, lunges, lunges, lunges, I am like, I do back lunges. I almost never do forward walking lunges with people because of the knees. No one can every keep their knees in proper position, so we do back lunges. Why did neither one of you mention it? Grace?
GRACE: I do love them and I do use them but I try to pick the ones, if I had to pick five if I really, really wanted people to do, I'd rather see you learn to use those transverse abdominal muscles and your Kegel muscles for a woman and your still working your whole lower body coming down and up. I do love the lunge, it is a great exercise. I do find that people have difficulty learning it and balancing with it. So, that's why I chose squats.
MELANIE: Absolutely true. And, Neal, on dead lifts.
NEAL: Yes.
MELANIE: Now, we don't have just a minute left here, but when you described dead lifts, do you want people to try with a straight leg? Are they allowed to bend their knees? Do they keep their chest up? Thirty seconds, Neal.
NEAL: Well, the key issue which I mentioned, is the neutral spine—a spine that has that s-curve which is a natural position for your spine. That's your strongest position for your spine. So, that's your strongest position in your spine, so you don't want to bend and flex the lower back as you're lifting something in front of you because that's going to put you in an awkward position and it's going to increase your risk versus the reward that you're going to get from the exercise. Dead lifts, you want to do by lowering the hips so you can grab whatever it is that you're grabbing and lifting and maintaining that neutral spine as you come up into the standing position. The reason I didn't select lunges is because I chose step ups instead. That's my lateral hip stability movement for the hip and leg.
MELANIE: Well, we are going to print all these out on RadioMD so that you can get that list again and if you missed any of this great stuff and information we're giving, you know you can listen any time on demand or on the go at RadioMD.com. You can download the show on iTunes, listen to it on iHeart, but share it with your friends because these He Said/She Said—ew! Say that a few times—are such great segments. You are getting really high quality, perfect information from trainers, right here.
This is Melanie Cole for RadioMD. Thanks so much for listening and stay well. - Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received No
- Host Melanie Cole, MS
Additional Info
- Segment Number 1
- Audio File train_your_body/1516tb2a.mp3
- Featured Speaker Neal Pire & Grace DeSimone
- Organization ACSM
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Guest Bio
Neal Pire is a nationally noted expert on fitness and personal training. He is a Fellow of the American College of Sports Medicine and has served on the Executive Council of ACSM's credentialing arm, the Committee on Certification and Registry Boards. Neal served as vice president of a leading national health management company and now serves as an Exercise Physiologist at HNH Fitness, a medical fitness center in Oradell, NJ. He is widely sought after as a consultant for athlete training programs, performance enhancement centers and fitness industry management. As a 35-year veteran with deep understanding of the subject matter, he is often asked for background, commentary or analysis by media covering wellness, fitness, and personal training.
Grace DeSimone has been in the fitness industry for over 30 years and brings a variety of experiences in commercial, corporate and community settings. She is the editor of ACSMs Resources for Group Exercise Instructors (LWW, 2011) and is an ACSM certified personal trainer and group exercise instructor. Grace is the National Director of Group Fitness for Plus One Health Management, an Optum Company. -
Transcription
RadioMD Presents: Train Your Body | Original Air Date: April 14, 2015
Host: Melanie Cole, MS
Guests: Neal Pire & Grace DeSimone
Train your body. Here's exercise physiologist, Melanie Cole, MS.
MELANIE: On our He Said/She Said segment this week, we are talking about when do you know that it's time to break up with your trainer and how hard is it to either switch classes and stop going to a particular class or switch to another trainer in the same gym. Yikes! Are they going to speak badly of you? Are they going to tell the other trainer stuff about you?
My guests are Grace DeSimone. She's the National Director of Group Fitness for Plus One Health Management, an Optum Company, and Neal Pire. He's an exercise physiologist at HNH Fitness, a medical fitness center in Oradell, New Jersey.
So, guys. Neal, I want to start with you because the trainer thing, absolutely. I have been there so many times. I've been on both ends. I've had someone leave me and then I've had people come to me and go, “Oh, my god. I had to get away from that other trainer.” What is your best advice when you can feel it, right? You can feel when the time is right. You're snipping at each other. You don't like the stories. There's silence when you're working out. Tell us about breaking up with your trainer. How do you do it?
NEAL: It's like any relationship. One of the things I tell trainers all the time that I work with on their professional development is that, you know, there is a personal side to this whole personal training thing and it's very easy to open up the vault, if you will, and you know, share parts of your personal life and personal things and it's very easy to become “chummy-chummy” with a client and for a client to become “chummy” with you because you're actually working with them on a very personal basis. You're touching, working, training their body. You know? How much more personal do you want to get? And, it's very easy for them to lose the spark, if you will, that you always feel when you're starting something new like any relationship. Then, you know, after a while, it becomes a little repetitive, a little ho hum and you don't feel that spark any more.
M: So, what do you do? So then, what do you do about it? Do you actually tell the person? Because this is what everybody always asks, Neal. Do you tell the trainer, “I need to stop seeing you now and I need to go find...” or do you just silently go to the front desk and say, “I'd like to make an appointment with that guy over there because he looks really great,” and then you just don't make another appointment with your trainer or, if they're an in-home, how do you do it? We don't have a lot of time here.
N: Disclosure is key. You have to be honest as you go and as you're feeling things. You have to be honest with the trainer and tell them, you know, what you're feeling at the moment. You know, “I don't feel as excited or as enthusiastic as I did when we first started. You know? Do I need to do something or...” and that's a signal for the trainer to have to do something.
M: Okay. So, you be honest. You tell them. And the trainer says “Let me see if I can fix it. Let me see if,” and you say “You know what? I don't want to hear about your kids anymore. I just can't really...” I mean, the silence. For me, Neal, I've had too many uncomfortable sessions before I've stopped working with somebody and it goes both ways.
Now, before we continue that, Grace. What about the same thing with classes? Is it different than a one-on-one with a trainer. If you just don't want to go to this person's class anymore, but you go to the class after them, but you feel like you want to hide from that first instructor. You never want to see the in the gym because they're going to be like, “How come I haven't seen you in class in 3 weeks?” What do you say to them when they say that to you?
GRACE: Well, it is a relationship and it really depends on how deep your relationship is with that instructor. I mean, some people, you're friends outside, you go out for drinks, you get your families together. So, sometimes it can be really uncomfortable, but I'll give you two strategies. One, thank them. “Thank you so much, Melanie. I love your class. You've taught me so well, but you know what? I need a little change and I'm going to try something different,” because most of us tell the class, please include variety. So, it's something that I preach all the time. So, first all of all, “Thank you. I love you. I'm going to try something different like you tell me I always can. I'm going to be brave and I'm going to make the change. You know what? I'm hoping that I'm going to come back, too, but I want to do something a little bit different.” That's easy. If you really can't stomach that, and then you say, you tell a little white lie. “I've had a change in my schedule.”
M: That's what I was going to ask. Are you allowed to lie?
G: Yes, sure. You can. I think the easiest thing is just to face the person. Saying thank you, it will go, you know, such a long way and make you both feel better and very often, deep down inside, you are grateful, it's just that you really do need a change and all of those things that you were describing before, you start getting fussy and antsy and you don't like them and you don't like their music and all of that and you get agitated. It really is better for you to move on, make the change, maybe you'll say, “Wow. I really appreciate that. I'm going to go back.” Or, “You know what? I really needed the change.” So, having a little time to refresh and sort of think about what you're doing is great. So, rather than stomach—people feel like they're obligated to keep coming and usually make it worse. I say, we all understand that. And, you know what? Sometimes, we're sick of you, too.
M: Well, that's why I said it. Sometimes it goes both ways, doesn't it?
G: It does. Oh, yes.
M: And, as a trainer, I know that sometimes I've just dreaded going to a client. It's like, “Oh, my god. I've been with this person 10 years,” and it's just I dread the session and that shouldn't be a good situation for either of them.
So, Neal, back to you for some specifics if you are, say, an in-home trainer and do you just say, “I'm sorry. I need to go in another way?” Do you lie or tell that little white lie and say, “My schedule has changed and I'm not sure our times will gel anymore?” But, what about in the gym when they see you with another trainer.
N: Well, the best approach, I think, is truth. Telling the truth and keep in mind that most of the time, variety, motivation, inspiration is really your job as the fitness professional to keep moving the process forward to meet the participant's expectations while providing an experience that exceeds their expectations. So, if you work within those parameters, you usually keep things on the up and up. The big then is, whether you cut them off or they cut you off, never take it personally. And, that way, there are no regrets. That's why I like the truth up front. Being up front. “You know what, Mary? I think it's time for me to throw you out of the nest just for the time being. See how you feel. Work with what I've given you and see where it takes you.”
M: What if they say to you, what if they go with another trainer? Do they worry that their trainer's going to be, “Oh, yeah. She's so difficult, man. She's so difficult to work with.” I mean, because we all know that there are difficult clients.
N: Yes, there are.
M: So, you know, how do they actually make that break? Go to another trainer, start working with them and then look over at that other trainer working with somebody else. It's such an uncomfortable situation. Just in the last 30 seconds, Neal, give us some of your best advice for the comfort level of switching your trainer and seeing that person with another trainer.
N: Again being open and expressing your—not frustration, per se, but you know, “I need a little change. I want to try this on my own.” Maybe, “I saw this trainer doing this or that.” Tell them up front and I say, “You know what? Try it. Give it a try. Do something a little different and see where that takes you.”
M: Grace, last word to you now. You have about 1 minute, so tell us about classes, trainers, things you've seen at the best way to switch it up when you need to.
G: As a reminder to the listeners, it is all about you at the end of the day. I know sometimes, trainers impose their own personal stories and you feel guilty because they really need the money, but at the end of the day, do what's right for you. I agree with Neal, be as truthful as you can and use this tactic to say, “I'd really like to come back.” Because that will reduce the tension, you know? “I'd like to try something different, but I'd like to come back.” That way the door's always open. Maybe you'll go running back with open arms and say, “Wow. I didn't realize. I really like this better.” But, really, the consumer is in charge of the process and you should do the things that you feel are appropriate for you.
M: Absolutely. That's totally true. Leaving the door open. Even with people that I've had that said, “You know, we have to stop, but I might want to come back,” five years later, I still haven't heard from them. But, you know, I still want to wish them well, but at the end of the day, as Grace and Neal said, is about you, the client, it's about your workout. So, if you need to switch classes or trainers, you've just got to knuckle up and do it. It may not be as uncomfortable as you think.
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- Audio File train_your_body/1512tb2d.mp3
- Featured Speaker Jim White, RD
- Organization ACSM
- Guest Bio Jim White, RD, graduated Summa Cum Laude from Youngstown University in Ohio with a B.A. in Nutrition. He is credentialed by the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics as a Registered Dietitian and certified by the American College of Sports Medicine as a Health Fitness Specialist. On November 1, 2005, Jim opened his first Jim White Fitness & Nutrition Studios on Shore Drive in Virginia Beach. He soon outgrew this studio and opened a larger one in November 2006 on Laskin Road followed by an additional location in 2009 off Great Neck Road, both in Virginia Beach. Jim and his team have helped hundreds of people lose thousands of pounds. He is currently the National Spokesman for the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics and has the reputation of being one of the top health professionals in the country.
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RadioMD Presents: Train Your Body | Original Air Date: March 17, 2015
Host: Melanie Cole, MS
Guest: Jim White, RD
RadioMD.com. Train Your Body. Here's exercise physiologist, Melanie Cole, MS:
MELANIE: So, we talked about the refrigerator and the things you should have in it, but what about in your pantry? You open it up and there are boxed cookies and pretzels and chips and all these things that can counteract all the beautiful things that we talked about in your fridge.
My guest is a Jim White. He's a registered dietician and national spokesman for the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics.
So, Jim, in our pantries, what are we doing wrong as a nation? And, what can we do differently? I mean I sometimes tell people not even to shop in the middle of the store, but sometimes we have to. We have to keep some pastas and canned beans and things. So, what are we doing wrong and what can we do to change that?
JIM: Well, it's so true. Of course, we want everyone to shop on the outside. But, let's face it, being realistic, we're in this fast-paced environment. We hear everything about house makeovers and bridal makeovers and body makeovers, but how about the kitchen makeover? I mean, in order to get the body makeover we want, we've got to surround ourselves with good food. I always like that phrase, "the abs are made in the kitchen". It's so true. Nutrition is 80% of the game. So, yes. I'm going to give you some tips on how to improve your kitchen. First of all, I recommend to start surveying the area. We do these all the time with our business.
So, Melanie, if I came to your house, what would I see at first glance on your table there?
MELANIE: On my table or in my pantry?
JIM: In your pantry. Everywhere.
MELANIE: You'd sriracha. You'd see whole wheat pasta. I'm different than a lot of people, though. You'd see pepperoncinis and jardinière. You know, people look in my pantry, Jim, and they say, "You have no food in here." I say, "Are you kidding? I have tons of food in here." I keep canned tomatoes. A lot of different kinds of stewed tomatoes and black beans. That's what you'd see in mine, but you'd also see salt and vinegar potato chips for kids' lunches and pretzels and some cereals and granola. So, what am I doing wrong?
JIM: So, I'd give you a "B". We actually do grade people when we go in. I tell you what, it's probably one of the most mortifying things to some of our clients, but it's really great.
So, the first thing I say is, "Out of sight, out of mind." A lot of times, if we see cookies on the counter, or if we see different types of unhealthy snacks, we're going to eat them. So, what I recommend is to hide them. Find a cupboard where you put some of these, maybe unhealthier, foods at a distance that you possibly can't reach. There are some cool devices out there now. I don't know if you've heard of the food safe where you can put your food. You put a timeframe to stay out of it. But, to be realistic, if you don't want to throw away the food, keep it in a drawer that you can't get into. That's the first thing. So, out of sight, out of mind.
So, if we went through surveying the whole kitchen, first, I would look at appliances. Do you have all of the necessary tools to eat healthy? Do you have a good blender to make smoothies or maybe even a juicer to make some nice juices? Do you have an indoor grill especially in these cold months? I know in the north, when it's hitting 30 below, you don't want to go outside. For popcorn, do you have an air popper, rather than going to get the popcorn in the bags? I always recommend a measuring scale along with measuring cups and spoons because, let's face it. It's calories in, calories out. So, if we can learn to eye up our portions and measure our food, it's very important to have these appliances and devices in our house to be able to help us with that.
So, that's what I'd recommend when it comes to appliances.
Now, if we had to start with the fridge, definitely survey the fridge. First of all, look for a lot of foods that may be really bad. What I'd recommend is, okay, first you have the "sell by" date and that's, of course, how long the store keeps the food items on its shelf. Now, it could be safe. Milk will usually go bad about a week from the "sell by" date. Eggs are about 3-5 weeks and if you're keeping anything like poultry or any type of meats, you usually keep them in the refrigerator about 1-2 days. After that, if it's in there longer, you want to toss.
MELANIE: That's what people never know. I'm glad you brought this up, Jim, because the "sell by" date and the "best by" date, my daughter is obsessed with these dates and if something is past, even a minute, or on the same day, she wants me to throw it out. So, if we're looking at the "sell by" date on can of tomatoes, or a can of black beans, or pasta even, how long can you keep them past the "sell by" date? What is the difference between those two and when you open up something that normally is in your pantry like almond milk or something? How long does that stay good in the fridge?
JIM: Well, again, the "sell by" date, if it starts to smell funky or taste funky, usually, there's a freshness quality. So, some things such as yogurt, you could go a little bit over. Again, it could be a week past the "use by" date or even "sell by" date, but you have to really watch because it starts to taste funky. I mean, you might lose the quality of freshness and some people don't like that.
So, again, "sell by" date, you can still eat it past the "sell by" date. Again, with the milk, one week. Eggs 3-5 weeks. Poultry, some of your meats, you're looking at 1-2 days in the refrigerator. The "use by" date, this is the best date used by when the product starts losing its peak quality. It can be safe for a little while, but, again, it's going to reflect how it tastes. The USDA recommends that we eat foods before their "use by" date, just to be on the safe side. Again, we can go a little bit over. Some people, I swear, some of the people I know feel like they have an iron clad stomach and they can eat some of these foods well beyond, but play it safe, that's the recommendation I would use.
But, yes, a lot of people don't know about this.
MELANIE: They don't and it definitely is something that's confusing. So, what do we think about canned fruits and vegetables? Do you like those kinds of things to keep in our pantry if we can't always have them fresh in the fridge?
JIM: Absolutely. I think that, of course, it goes fresh, then frozen, then canned. But, you know, having canned foods—it's very important to have those fresh nutrients. Also, I would look for a lot of whole grains. Looking at whole wheat pasta over some of your white foods. This is going to provide more bang for your buck when it comes to nutrients. Not that you should throw away any white pasta or things like that. Remember, it's moderation. You can always blend, too. I see a lot of people, we recommend to have ½ of your plate with whole wheat pasta and white pasta and kind of blend it together. A lot of kids might not notice that, too.
With a lot of your sugary foods like pop tarts and a lot of your unhealthy, sugary foods that don't have a lot of nutrition value, maybe switch to some granola bars or some low sugar breakfast cereals or even low sugar instant oatmeal packets. But, you know, keep a good, clean pantry and separate the foods. I mean, let's face it, you've got to have some of these foods around, but I would rather have someone go out and get something that might be a little unhealthy at the store rather than have that trigger food right in their house where if they have a moment of stress, they would grab it and maybe even binge eat on it.
Again, if you can't control it at the house, of course, learning healthy eating habits and behavior modification is the first key, but if that falls through, go get it at the store rather than have it at the house. That's what I'd recommend.
Now, if you have kids, of course, that can be a different subject and everything in moderation, I believe.
MELANIE: Well, even some of those sugary things like Fruit Loops, there are now products at Whole Foods that you can get that you look at the label and they're certainly better than the Fruit Loops with the million different chemicals they use. You know, all natural and some more whole grains and some natural colors instead of, you know, artificial things. So having some of those, if you do have kids, is sort of a way, sometimes to trick your kids. Sometimes they do not taste quite as well.
Jim, you've got about a minute and a half, so wrap up a clean pantry for us.
JIM: Well, I tell you what, the freezer is very important. You can have frozen fruits which is good for smoothies. Keep low calorie ice cream. Maybe some ice cream pops. They have the Greek yogurt pops, I think. You're probably wondering like, you know, "Now my shelves are empty. I'm going to get rid of this stuff, what do I do?" Well, now is the perfect time to write out a grocery list. Lean proteins such as salmon, beans, chicken, nuts, seeds, walnuts, fresh fruits and vegetables. Of course, non-fat dairy and whole grains would be great. This is a great process. Do this with the family. They can be educated on what to eat, what not to eat. Bring them to the grocery store. Educate them on products. If you need a pro, a registered dietician is always there to help that can do this for you. You might be a little nervous, but, again, having a healthy pantry; having a healthy kitchen, it will definitely make over the health of the whole family.
MELANIE: And, it's a great time to do it--in the spring. Clean out your freezer, your pantry, your fridge. Make that grocery list and take the whole family grocery shopping for all of those new healthy choices. When he said "frozen fruit", buy your fresh fruit and as it starts to get soft and your kids won't eat it, you shove it in the freezer and it makes great smoothies.
You're listening to RadioMD. The show is Train Your Body.
Thanks for listening and stay well.
- Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received No
- Host Melanie Cole, MS