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- Audio File northshore/1438nh2d.mp3
- Doctors Mann, Curtis
- Featured Speaker Dr. Curtis Mann
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Dr. Curtis Mann is a Family Medicine/Primary Care Physician.
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Melanie Cole (Host): As the days get shorter, it becomes more difficult to get your recommended daily dose of vitamin D, or the sunshine vitamin. Just how much do you really need as the winter months approach? My guest is Dr. Curtis Mann. He’s a family medicine and primary care physician with NorthShore University Health System. Welcome to the show, Dr. Mann. So, vitamin D. Tell us what it does for us and how much of it we’re going to need as these winter months approach.
Dr. Curtis Mann (Guest): Sure. It's interesting, because we actually call it vitamin D, but it's not truly a vitamin D. It’s actually a steroid hormone. A vitamin by definition is something that we need to intake from an outside source. But we do actually manufacture some vitamin D. The problem is that oftentimes, we’re not out in the sun enough or there are precautions with not being in the sun that much because of risk of skin cancer and this kind of thing, or people live in the northern climates. So, we don't get enough and then, so we have to look at supplementing. And there’s different recommendations on how much you should be taking I guess depending on what you’re presenting as a patient.
Melanie: Okay, so it is something that we might have to supplement as we’re not getting so much. And talking even about sunscreens and then blocking the vitamin D, that’s a whole another show in itself.
Dr. Mann: Sure. Sure.
Melanie: So, what foods contain vitamin D if we’re not only getting it from the sun? And then, let’s talk about supplementation.
Dr. Mann: Yeah. So there’s not that many foods that have vitamin D. Fortified dairy products have it. If you look on the back of a breakfast cereal box, you will see it’s been fortified with vitamin D. There is other foods like fatty fish, beef liver, egg yolks, they do have some. They don't have that much. If you look on a multivitamin, if you’re taking that every day, traditionally that's had about 400 units of vitamin D. Lately they have been pumping that up a little bit more, so you might notice it might have a little bit more vitamin D in it. So really, for the most part, nutritionally, our day-to-day nutritional intake, we’re just not going to get enough vitamin D. So it’s interesting within the past years, one of our big organizations called the Institute of Medicine said that we should probably, if we’re up to the age of 70, have 600 units of vitamin D a day. If we’re above 70, then we should have more, 800 units. But those are just kind of bare minimum guidelines, and it’s worth talking more about if that’s right for a particular individual.
Melanie: And Dr. Mann, what are some of the signs and symptoms that we might experience if we are in vitamin D deficiency, and how do we even know if we are?
Dr. Mann: So the truth is, most of the time, when you have a low vitamin D, you're not going to have symptoms. If it’s really low, with vitamin D, one of the main things it does is it takes calcium and it's kind of a transporter for calcium and helps with bone. It prevents bone loss. So, a really severely restricted vitamin D in a patient, we might have somebody presenting with bone pain or muscle pain, fatigue. But then, there’s a myriad of other symptoms that we’re finding that people might have with a fairly low vitamin D but not that severe. So there might be mild depressive symptoms. It might be fatigue, it might be some body aches. We’re finding that lower vitamin D levels but not necessarily to the severity of having bone pain is causing a lot of these symptoms that are affecting our system in some ways. So we’re just beginning to learn a lot more about some of the symptoms that are presenting with a lower vitamin D level.
Melanie: Dr. Mann, do we ask for vitamin D to be checked when we get our blood checked? Is this automatic, no?
Dr. Mann: No. It's not automatic. If you’re a patient that has certain illnesses or certain underlying diseases—and this might be autoimmune diseases or neurologic diseases, or it might be certain gastrointestinal issues like Celiac, or even certain psychiatric diagnoses like depression—and if you’ve never had a vitamin D level, you absolutely want to get it done. Because we’re finding that vitamin D can actually be that X factor if we’re able to get that up to a sufficient level that it can actually help with your symptoms. I don't think everybody needs it. I think if you’re a young, otherwise healthy male or female in your 20s or 30s, I don't know if there is a lot of benefit to just doing that across the board. But certainly, if you are having certain underlying diseases that you’re bringing to the table, it’s certainly worth asking if it has never been done.
Melanie: So what is the recommended dose, and how much should we take supplementing? Because some people are taking thousands, and you’re like, “Okay, really do need that much?” But also, if you’re recommending a dose for us, how can that affect seasonal affective disorder? Can that help ward off some of the symptoms that we might be experiencing?
Dr. Mann: Sure. So, kind of the bare minimum recommendation is taking between 600 units and 800 units a day, and that really is not that much. For my patients, I am recommending 1,000 to 2,000 units a day as I’ve read up a lot more in vitamin D deficiency and what it can cause. So again, I don't think there’s an absolute recommendation on what the exact level should be until you actually have your vitamin D drawn. If your vitamin D level is drawn and it’s coming back low, yeah, you might be put on 5,000 units a day for a month or so. And then generally, the maintenance dose, once you get your vitamin D level up to speed, is about a thousand units. We know we can kind of maintain a vitamin D level at a certain level if we can keep that you know at a thousand units. The flip side is that people that are obese or overweight, they don't absorb vitamin D as well. So they might have to have more so. I think there’s a general guideline. We’re reading that base level’s at least 800 to 1,000, and it might be significantly more than that. And then, certainly related to seasonal affective disorder, we’re finding that vitamin D stimulates a lot of genes, and a lot of these genes reside in the brain. So we know that some of these genes might express themselves for depression and seasonal affective disorder is one of the subcategories of depression. And we’re finding that adequate supplementation with people with depression, and thereby with seasonal affective disorder, can make significant differences. Certainly, there is light therapy with seasonal affective disorder, but potentially even supplementing with vitamin D and making sure that you’re getting levels that probably are higher than what the current recommendation is. The current recommendation is to have it at least about 30, but for people with SAD, we might want to get up to a level of around 70.
Melanie: So Dr. Mann, in just the last couple of minutes, give us your best advice about vitamin D deficiency, getting proper amounts of vitamin D, whether supplements or from the sun, and why should people come to NorthShore University Health System for their primary care.
Dr. Mann: Sure. I think the big thing is that if you have some underlying diseases—and these are, again, autoimmune, depression, neurologic diseases, GI issues, vitamin D is definitely worth doing. And based on that level, then we can figure out how much vitamin D supplementation you ought to be taking. And I guess the biggest point I can make is everybody is different, and if you're out there and you’re trading war stories with people, that they’re taking X amount of unit of vitamin D and you’re only taking this amount, everybody physiologically is different. So, just because somebody else takes a different dose than what you’re taking, that’s okay. We all absorb it differently; we get different amounts of sunlight. Not all of us wear sun protection all the time, so some of us are getting different amounts of vitamin D in the environment. So, certainly, I have no objection if I have a patient coming in just asking for a vitamin D with getting that level and then figuring out from there what their ultimate dose is. And then lastly, just about NorthShore, we are an ever enlarging organization, and it’s very exciting. We’ve just actually merged with another organization called Advocate, and now we’re the largest healthcare provider in Chicago and area and the 11th largest in the country. And we have a tremendous number of resources and terrific electronic medical records that we’re doing, a lot of research and thereby just providing better patient care. So we’re always excited to have people come and see us here.
Melanie: Thank you so much, Dr. Curtis Mann. You're listening to NorthShore Health and Wellness. And for more information, you can go to NorthShore.org. That is NorthShore.org. This is Melanie Cole. Thanks so much for listening. - Hosts Melanie Cole MS
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- Segment Number 4
- Audio File eat_right/1437nd1b.mp3
- Featured Speaker Kim Larson, RDN
- Organization Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics
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Guest Bio
Kim Larson is a board-certified specialist in sports dietetics and founder of Total Health, a nutrition consulting company specializing in nutrition, fitness and health coaching for individuals, athletes and teams. Larson conducts personal nutrition coaching for corporations, as well as industry consulting work on topics related to nutrition, food and health. She speaks to audiences including consumer groups, sports teams and organizations, corporate wellness programs, community programs, the fitness industry and other health care professionals.
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Melanie Cole (Host): What if someone told you that eating a certain type of foods every day would prevent you from getting heart disease, type II diabetes, some types of cancer and even from becoming overweight or obese? My guest today is Kim Larson. She’s a board certified specialist in Sports Dietetics and founder of Total Health and Nutrition Consulting Company, specializing in nutrition, fitness, health, and health coaching for individuals, athletes, and teams. Welcome to the show, Kim. Is there such a food out there?
Kim Larson (Guest): Yes, there is. I don't know how many people guessed it, but the food group is whole grains.
Melanie: Tell us about whole grains because we hear the word “grains,” we think of carbohydrates, everybody runs away, and they’re not sure exactly what that means.
Kim: Right. Well, there are so many reasons to eat more whole grains, and the biggest one, as you’ve just said, is that they’re a healthy carbohydrate. They’re a high-quality carbohydrate, and they’re also delicious. They add lots of flavor and texture and variety and interest to our diet. They’re very versatile. You can use them as a side dish, like a pilaf. You can mix them in salads and soups and stews and casseroles. And they’re a very easy swap for those refined starches, like white rice or pasta. And they give us a long-lasting energy because they are much more slowly digested than the refined carbs. So when we have people to avoid carbs, we’re really talking not about whole grains. We’re talking about refined starches that are not a whole grain.
Melanie: Give us some examples of whole grains that we can eat.
Kim: Well, the first thing we have to define is what is a whole grain and how do we find it. A whole grain contains the entire grain kernel, which includes the germ, the endosperm, and the bran outer layer. And so, it’s really important to identify the whole grain by looking on the label of food products when you’re shopping or before you put them into your cart. You want to make sure that it says whole wheat on the label and that first ingredient says whole wheat. Now, there’s a lot of other terms that are used on food products, and one is, say 100 percent wheat bread or seven-grain or multigrain, or it might even say wheat flower or cracked wheat. But those terms are very misleading because those are not whole grains. So the first thing we have to do is get to the right type of whole grains, because when we mill flour, we refine it, and it strips away half of the B vitamins, about 90 percent of the vitamin E and all of the fiber in the grain. We want to choose the healthiest grain by choosing a whole grain.
Melanie: So, some examples would be?
Kim: Some examples would be, and you might have heard some of the ancient grains that are becoming very trendy and popular now: quinoa, whole wheat, so that would include whole wheat breads and cereals, whole grain corn, whole oats, like oatmeal, brown rice, barley, faro, spelt, bulgur is another one. And some of these might be new to people, but some of them are really the tried and true old types of grains that we used to fall back on, like brown rice.
Melanie: So, refined grain products are usually enriched, Kim. Are whole grains products enriched as well?
Kim: Well, they don't need to be enriched because we’re getting all of that grain kernel. We’re getting all of the nutrition when you choose a whole grain. Refined products actually have to be fortified. Some of those B vitamins are added back in because those are the ones that are stripped away in the milling process, but we never add back in the grain. And we also miss out on the powerful phytonutrients that milling of flour takes out. Refined flours don't have all of the health components that a whole grain would.
Melanie: Now, Kim, I agree with you. Reading labels is of the utmost important. People see whole wheat bread or white whole wheat bread. Is that a whole grain bread?
Kim: It is a whole grain bread. There are different types of wheat, and it’s really nice now that we have all these different varieties of wheat and grains to choose from, so you could start out by choosing a white wheat for your kids. It’s a little bit softer wheat, but it’s also a whole grain, and you can kind of ease people into a little bit different taste and texture in the whole grains by using some of these different types of varieties of wheat available.
Melanie: You mentioned oatmeal, and oatmeal comes in a few different kinds. There’s instant oatmeal and there’s regular oats and then there’s steel cut. Is there a difference? If we want to really include these whole grains in our breakfast, what do we do there?
Kim: Right. That’s a very good question, and I think there’s a lot of confusion out there on this question. All oats are healthy and they have the same nutritional profile. Steel cut oats and instant oats have many of the same vitamins and minerals and iron and trace minerals in it. But the difference is that instant oatmeal has been processed more, so you’re going to get a little bit less fiber. But they’re still a good choice for breakfast. The best choice is the one that you like and that you like to eat and that you’ll eat every day. In terms of cold cereals, I like to recommend people, look on the label and look for a whole grain cereal that has at least five grams of fiber per serving. That’s the key for trying to get more fiber and whole grains into cereals, and it’s a great time at breakfast to do that.
Melanie: What about pasta? You mentioned whole wheat and there’s whole wheat pastas out there now. They’re a little bit more gritty, and as you say, they have a little bit more fiber. I like them better, but not everybody does. So, what about whole wheat pasta? Is “pasta” the word we’re afraid of?
Kim: Well, I think that yes, there are lots of different types of pastas out there. There’s even brown rice pasta. And so, they’re all a better choice than the regular white pasta. A good way to start getting used to that little bit nuttier flavor, a little bit more texture is to maybe add in to your white pasta about half and try to just add in that flavor and texture and over time, people will get used to it. It still is a healthy choice, but certainly, all the other grains that are out there would be a great swap instead of white pasta.
Melanie: Now, giving those whole grains into our children, so we’ve talked about the pasta and we’ve talked about the breakfast cereals, looking for that on the label and oatmeal. How else, because there’s different kinds of granola bars and bars and things out on the market that say “includes whole grains.” How do we get these whole grains into our children, and how much should we all be eating every day?
Kim: Well, that’s also a good question. The best way to get kids to eat whole grains is to start them early, so making sure that you’re combining whole grains with some familiar foods you might eat in your family, like using whole wheat spaghetti noodles, maybe making French toast with whole wheat bread, using a whole wheat pita bread for making individual pizzas with kids. Making it fun for them and getting them used to the texture is another great way to start early with kids. And for adults, men and women, it’s very difficult for us to get our target amounts of fiber every day without whole grains because they’re such a good source of fiber. Men need about 35 grams of fiber a day, and women, about 25. And most of us do not get that right now. So any way that you can begin to flap out white rice and white pasta, white bread for the whole wheat varieties, that is going to be your best way to get additional fiber into your diet.
Melanie: In just the last minute, Kim, give us your best advice for getting whole grains into our diet, these healthy grains, and how much we should have.
Kim: Well, most of us need about five to eight servings of grains a day. Of course, that’s based on your age or sex, your physical activity, but the dietary guidelines want us to get at least half of those servings as whole grains, at least three servings a day because we know that it helps us maintain our weight. In fact, it helps us lose weight and prevent weight gain because that fiber included in the whole grains really fills us up, gives us that long-lasting energy, and is digested a lot more slowly. My best advice is to use the shortcuts and make it easy and convenient to use those grains by pre-soaking them or make a big batch of grains so that you can eat off them for three, four, or five days. And then, look for the quick cooking grains that are available today in the grocery store. They’re either cooked briefly or some of them are parboiled. So they really don't take much time at all. Instead, swapping those out for some other common side dishes that you’re serving in family meals.
Melanie: Thank you so much, Kim Larson. You’re listening to Eat Right Radio with our great friends from the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. For more information, you can go to eatright.org, that’s eatright.org. This is Melanie Cole. Have a great day. - Length (mins) 10
- Host Melanie Cole, MS
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- Segment Number 3
- Audio File northshore/1438nh2c.mp3
- Doctors Kaul, Karen
- Featured Speaker Karen Kaul, MD, PhD
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Dr. Kaul is Chair of the Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine at NorthShore Medical Group.
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Melanie Cole (Host): We hear so much in the media today about genetics and your risk for breast cancer. What does that really mean as far as your risk is concerned? And if you do have to have some kind of a biopsy, what do those results mean? It can be very confusing and very dizzying. My guest is today is Dr. Karen Kaul. She is the chairman of the Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine at NorthShore University Health System. Welcome to the show, Dr. Kaul. So I would like to start just by asking you, what do we know about heredity and breast cancer?
Dr. Karen Kaul: So, Melanie, thank you for having me on the show today. And I’d like to actually start by commenting on genetics because I think this is a very confusing area for patients and for physicians. There are two somewhat different areas in genetics. One is the germ line, what we inherit through our families. And when we look at those genes, we are talking about hereditary cancers, hereditary diseases. And we generally test those on blood samples, and those results are interpreted in conjunction with genetic counsellors and medical geneticists. The other area that we focus on in the field of pathology is the genetics of a particular tumor, where we’re actually looking at acquired defects in the DNA that we now understand causes tumor formation. And actually, we study that by looking at the DNA of the tumor itself. And this has great importance, we are learning, in terms of determining how to best treat a patient for that particular tumor. And this is leading us all into the area that we’re hearing a lot in the news today, personalized medicine, where we can actually target a molecular defect in the tumor with a particular new drug. So, very different areas, and they’re approached differently. But for breast cancer or other cancers, these are becoming increasingly important.
Melanie: Are you seeing in your practice more and more people getting tested for their genetic risk?
Dr. Kaul: I think that's going to be a huge area of growth and an area where we need to understand a lot more about our germ line or hereditable genetics. Breast cancer is one area where we know that there are a couple of genes—namely BRCA1 and 2—that cause a percentage of tumors. And by looking at a family, looking at an inheritance patterns of cancer with that particular family, we can identify who is likely to be at risk and specifically test those patients for mutations, alterations in these genes and predict who is likely to get cancer. This was in the news a lot last year with Angelina Jolie coming out very publicly about her experiences. We are also beginning to understand that other genes are important as well, and there’s been a great deal in the news of late about other genes besides BRCA1 and 2 that we may want to look at in certain populations of patients so that we better understand their overall risk. So this will no doubt continue to expand, and our knowledge will grow, and it will probably become more complicated. And the field of medical practitioner called medical genetics is going to become increasingly important in years to come.
Melanie: What a fascinating field of study, Dr. Kaul. It really is. So, if someone gets tested or doesn't get tested, or if they are found they have a lump and they get a biopsy, this biopsy, this is where everybody kind of loses track here and what happens. The biopsy is sent to a pathologist such as yourself to analyze the tissue and find out whether this is a malignant tumor or not. Tell us what happens in your department that will help us to understand what’s going on.
Dr. Kaul: So first, just a bit if I may about pathologists because we are very much behind the scenes. We rarely interact with the patients. But occasionally, patients get bills from us because we do interpret results on their tumors, on their blood tests, and other things. So, pathologists are responsible for a very large portion of the decision-making process in patients because we generate all the answers in the lab that guide the clinicians, the physicians to know how to best treat their patients. But it is a bit of a mystery because we’re not out front and center in front of the patient. In the case of a tumor, breast cancer—or other tumors, for that matter—generally we start with a biopsy. This could be because there is something funny-looking on your skin, or in the case of breast cancer, because there’s a suspicious area on a mammogram or a lump that can be felt on breast exam or what have you. And usually, the way this will start will be a biopsy. In the case of breast cancer, this would typically be either a needle biopsy or an aspiration of cells out of the mass that is, again, directed sometimes radiologically and with use of a needle. And the material that comes out would either be a small portion of tissue or cells that are smeared on the slide, and this is going to go come up to pathology to be examined by a professional who can look at the material on the slide and determine whether it is normal, suspicious for some reason, or clearly malignant. And what we generally will do is look at the cells that we see in the tissue, and we’re trained through the years of our training to identify what is going on with these cells and classify the results accordingly. Most of the time, fortunately, our answer is that this is a mass that is not suspicious for cancer and the patient can be reassured. Sometimes there requires more material to come to a definitive diagnosis, and other times it’s very clearly cancer. And that will set the patient on down subsequent work up and treatment planning with their oncologists. The process generally at this point in time starts with microscopy. We put material on a glass slide and look at it under the microscope. This process takes a few days to complete processing the tissue and making slides, et cetera. Sometimes, we have to do additional studies on that material. Immunostains for expressing different proteins or sometimes actually looking at DNA defects in the genes present in that tumor to come to a full diagnosis. So, there are a few days that pass by between the point in time that a biopsy is taken and the time that a result is available for a clinician to begin treatment planning.
Melanie: And Dr. Kaul, when you are delivering these results in the form of a report, which then goes to the patient, is this involved in this staging process too? Are you the one who determines how invasive this cancer is or what stage it has progressed to?
Dr. Kaul: To a certain degree, yes. So, generally, our reports will go to surgeon, a clinician, medical oncologists, and they will be reviewed with the patient. So we add to the collective information that is available on that patient. We do pathologically stage patients, which means that we look under the microscope and see if we can be certain that a cancer is in situ, meaning it has not begun invading, which obviously is a much better prognosis for the patient. Or if we can see microscopic evidence of invasion, we’ll document that. In some cases where lymph nodes are removed as part of a resection—this obviously is beyond just a biopsy stage—we’ll examine the lymph nodes and try to identify whether the tumor has spread to that part. And that generally will lead to a difference in the treatment approach used in that patient. Additionally, staging can include information from radiology. Patients might be screened in other ways with other methods in radiology, a CT scan or what have you to try to add information to the overall staging. But pathologists do contribute a lot of this information on actually looking at the tissues.
Melanie: And does the cancer itself have genes that affect how the cancer might be treated? Can you tell that in your report?
Dr. Kaul: We are beginning to look more and more at this not only in breast cancer but in lung cancer, colorectal cancer, melanoma, thyroid cancer. I think this is an area where we are going to have a huge impact upon how patients are treated in the future. Historically, cancers were classified according to the organ in which they originated, hence you have breast cancer, lung cancer, and what have you. I think the next level of classifying cancers was how they look under the microscope. So we have a whole series of pattern recognition type of classification that pathologists would use—the cancer is ductile or lobular or tubular or what have you based upon how we see this under the microscope. And that added a certain level of information that sometimes reflected how patients would respond to treatments or how they would do down the road. But I think what's happening currently—and we’re in the midst of perhaps even a revolution in medicine—is we’re beginning to understand that what we can identify at the molecular level, at the gene level, really has a big importance in terms of how a patient is going to do and how they’re going to respond to treatment. And so, we’re beginning to look at cancers not just based upon the organ of origin or how they look under the microscope but what specific genes are altered in those tumors. Is this a tumor that is, for example, the result of a mutation in a gene like EGFR? These all have funny names that we understand but are probably alphabet soup to the general public. But we are identifying different pathways that can be radically altered by mutations and genes, and this in turn dictates how the tumor will best respond to a targeted therapy. And I think this is an area of great advancement and great excitement in treatment of cancers across the board, including breast cancer. But it will lead to us having to look at cancer in a very different way, will require that we get into studies that involve looking at these genes, like sequencing, and will require the medical community to look very carefully at how they determine what sort of treatments they can use for patients. And in turn, I think the insurer community and the FDA will have a look at what they permit patients to be treated with in order to optimize this entire system. So, big changes ahead.
Melanie: And Dr. Kaul, in just the last minute. Please tell the listeners your best advice for figuring out their pathology report and why they should come to NorthShore University Health System for such quality testing.
Dr. Kaul: Well, I think that discussing their pathology report with the surgeon or internist or oncologists, whoever they have worked with, is a great first step. We often meet behind the scenes with these people, present cases in joint conferences where we discuss appropriate management and bring in the most current and cutting-edge techniques like next Gen sequencing and other approaches to really make sure that we are getting the most detailed and appropriate information to ensure that patients are going to get optimal care. I think questions can be answered by the primary care physician or, more importantly, the specialists. And in some cases, it may be that they won’t even to talk to the pathologist. I think in some centers we’re seeing that pathologists are getting involved in helping to translate this complicated information to the patients. Here at NorthShore, we have actually started an oncology clinic to help patients understand these complicated results. And that is, I think, a huge step forward for patients to fully understand how’re being treated and why. And that’s something that’s new at NorthShore just in the last few months.
Melanie: Thank you so much, Dr. Karen Kaul. You're listening to NorthShore Health and Wellness. And for more information you can go to northshore.org. That’s northshore.org. This is Melanie Cole. Thanks so much for listening. /AT/rj/es - Hosts Melanie Cole MS
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- Segment Number 2
- Audio File northshore/1438nh2b.mp3
- Doctors Lovitz, Lori
- Featured Speaker Lori Lovitz, DO
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Lori Lovitz Board certified neurologist specializing in sleep medicine (pediatric and adult).
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Melanie Cole (Host): The cure for sleep difficulties can often be found in your daily routine. Your sleep schedule, bedtime habits and day-to-day lifestyle choices can make an enormous difference to the quality of your nightly rest. And here to give us best tips is Dr. Laurie Lovitz. She’s a board-certified neurologist specializing in sleep medicine at NorthShore University Health System. Welcome to the show, Dr. Lovitz. So tell us. There’s a big sleep disorder problem in this country. People have stress and electronics and all these things keeping us awake at night. What do you tell people as your first, most important bit of information in getting a good night’s sleep?
Dr. Laurie Lovitz (Guest): Well, thank you for having me, number one. And secondly, yes, I do believe that with the change of technology and people have being their phones present and their computers present at all times, I always tell people that you have to respect your sleep. You have to make sure that you are allowing yourself to get a good 7 to 8 hours per night of sleep, number one. And number two, that it’s at regular bedtimes and wake times. And then number three, you want to make sure that your bedroom environment is going to be set up for the best possible sleep that you can get. So this means trying to remove all of those items from your bedroom. A lot of these phones have alerts, they have sounds, they have lights. The lights might turn on every time you get a new email, and these can be very disruptive to your sleep, not only during your sleep, but also when you are trying to fall asleep. They often serve as a constant reminder to what you have to do next day or what you should have done earlier during the day. So it’s constantly playing with your brain and keeping your brain awake while you should be trying to relax and fall asleep. So I think that that's the crux of what people should be aiming for, just trying to get rid of all of these alerting devices while you’re trying to fall asleep.
Melanie: So it’s important that we get 7 to 8 hours to really be our best the next day. So, start from the beginning of the night. We don't use electronics for, what, an hour at least before bedtime? And what should be our room -- do you feel like a cooler environment, a hotter environment, darker? What should we be doing to get our bedtime ready?
Dr. Lovitz: Absolutely. So yes, I always tell people to start winding down about two hours before they want to fall asleep. So this means getting rid of those stimulating activities, trying to turn off the TV and shutting all the work programs, brushing their teeth, getting their pajamas ready, getting their clothes ready for the next day. So I would think a good two hours of winding down is important. And this also means no exercise during that time, no dinner during that time. And then, when they get their bedroom environment to be optimal for sleep, this is something called sleep hygiene. And so the optimal sleep hygiene would be a completely dark room, a completely quiet room, and yes, cool temperature tends to be better for more efficient sleep during the night. And of course you want to make sure that you have covers, that you can keep yourself warm if you need to be warm. But having a cooler room versus a warmer room tends to be better.
Melanie: What about white noise? With babies, that's how you can sometimes get them to sleep. And I know people I know have to have a fan in the room when they go to sleep so that that constant, little bit of white noise -- what do you think of that?
Dr. Lovitz: I think that’s fine. It’s actually worse for many, many of my patients and babies as well. The reason why that works is because with the white noise, you’re basically cancelling out any of these other external noises that can be enough to stimulate an awakening. Some people are more hyper-alert than others. And so, if there’s a honking horn outside on the street or if there’s a phone alert in the next room, sometimes people can wake up from those noises. So having a white noise machine or some sort of a continuous noise can be enough to drown out those other noises and help people sleep better.
Melanie: So now, what about regulating our sleep and wake cycle, natural melatonin versus taking a supplement? What do you think of people who have these kind of not correct sleep and wake cycles? How do they get on to that cycle?
Dr. Lovitz: So melatonin can be very useful for people who do have disruptions in their sleep cycle, and let me just back up by saying that, naturally, we do have an inherent sleep cycle rhythm. Sometimes they could be disrupted, either in the situation where, later on, in someone's life because as we get older we are less likely to have a strong circadian rhythm. But also sometimes, people can disrupt their sleep cycle because they’re travelling back and forth often, they have got jetlag, they’ve got shift work disorder. So there’s a lot of other reasons why a circadian rhythm can be altered. So, if this is the case, then, yes, there are things that we can do with treatment either by use of melatonin. If you were to take melatonin earlier in the evening, let's say about five hours before your intended bedtime, it will make it easier for you to fall asleep during that intended bedtime. And then other factors that can help with circadian rhythm—actually, even a stronger factor—is light exposure. So if you are waking up at the intended time that you want to wake up, you want to be sure that you’re exposing yourself to light so that you can maintain that wakefulness during the day. So during the day, you want to expose yourself to light, and during the night, when you’re trying to sleep, you don't want to expose yourself to light. So, these are all things that are going to enhance the circadian rhythms that you would like to have.
Melanie: Dr. Lovitz, what about lifestyle and lifestyle behaviors? People drink, they think that, "Oh, the alcohol is going to make me fall asleep much faster." But it doesn't necessarily help get a good night’s sleep, does it?
Dr. Lovitz: Well, right, that's correct. So, when someone drinks alcohol, it might help them fall asleep in the beginning of the night more easily because it makes them drowsy. However, when that alcohol wears off and you get that caloric burst after the alcohol wears off of their system, oftentimes, what people will get will be an awakening in the middle of the night where they actually feel like it's time to get up, like, it's their usual wake time. And so, once they eliminate or significantly reduce their alcohol intake, they can actually have more consolidated sleep.
Melanie: Now, what about stress and anxiety? Because we lay there awake at night thinking of bills and all of the millions of things that we have to the next day. How do we get that out of our heads, Dr Lovitz, so that we can fall asleep?
Dr. Lovitz: One of the strategies that I like to use with my patients with regard to the stress and the planning, all the things that flood your head when you’re trying to sleep is something called Scheduled Worry Time. And this is really simply when you make an appointment with yourself earlier on in the day—and this should be a time more than two hours before the time you want to fall asleep. It could be at 10 a.m. It could be at 7 p.m., whatever time is your time that you have a full hour where you don't have to do anything else. And I tell them to just sit down there with a piece of paper and just write down all those things that tend to flood into their heads when they’re trying to go to sleep at night. This could be things like conversations that they’ve had, things that have bothered them, people that they have to speak with, plans for the next day, plans for the future, all the things that tend to flood their head when they’re supposed to be falling asleep. And once they sat there for an hour and just let it all out, get it all out onto paper, when it comes time for them to fall asleep later on in the evening, they can just tell themselves, "That's okay. I’ve already done that. I have already given myself that hour." And it makes it a lot easier for them to fall asleep. And if per chance there is something that comes into their heads when they’re trying to fall asleep, all they have to do is tell themselves, "I could do this again tomorrow the same time." So if you do this every single day consistently, if your time is at 10 a.m. and you do it every day at 10 a.m., it makes it easier for you to plan things and get all of that stress out during that scheduled worry time because it becomes a habit now. And then when they go to sleep at night, all they have tell themselves is, "Nope. It's okay. I already did it." So it makes it a lot easier for people to fall asleep over time.
Melanie: Dr. Lovitz, how do we know when someone's sleep issues are severe enough that they need to come see a doctor? And why should people come to NorthShore University Health System for their sleep issues?
Dr. Lovitz: What I would tell patients is that if they have tried all of these circadian rhythm enhancements and improve their sleep hygiene and got rid of the stress, that they still have short sleep or, more importantly, disrupted sleep, like they’re waking up multiple times during the night and they don't know why. That would be a good time to have a professional evaluation. Because what we could do is we can actually do a sleep study and find out are these awakenings coming from snoring disorders or sleep breathing disorders, or are they coming from limb movement disorders? So, we can find out these things by doing a formal evaluation. The great thing about NorthShore University Health System is that we’ve got four different hospitals—Skokie, Highland Park, Evanston, and Glenbrook—and we’ve got six specialists in all of hospitals as well as up in Guerney and we can take a multidisciplinary approach and address any of these complications. We also have two sleep labs involved in these four hospitals. So we can definitely accommodate all of the patients up in this area. What's also great is that we’re doing some great research studies in collecting clinical information in the hopes of learning more about either the genetics behind certain disorders such as Restless Leg Syndrome, as well as what treatments are the most effective and tolerated in the long run for these patients. So a lot of exciting things to come in our system.
Melanie: Thank you so much, Dr. Laurie Lovitz. You're listening to NorthShore Health and Wellness. For more information you can go to NorthShore.org. That is NorthShore.org. This is Melanie Cole. Thanks so much for listening. - Hosts Melanie Cole MS
Additional Info
- Segment Number 5
- Audio File naturally_savvy/1438ns3e.mp3
- Featured Speaker David Pollock
- Guest Website Just Ask David
- Guest Twitter Account @justaskdavid
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Guest Bio
Named one of the “20 to Know” by Global Cosmetics Industry, David Pollock has more than 20 years of experience formulating innovative skin, hair and body care products, generating hundreds of millions of dollars for some of the most prestigious names in the industry, including Bliss, Smashbox, Lancôme , L’Oreal – SkinCeuticals, Brookstone, Shaklee, the Art of Shaving, Hydrox - C, Alpha Max, Nutra - Luxe, Reliv, Ted Gibson, the Home Shopping Network and more.
David is a published author, a frequent keynote speaker and an experienced radio guest. He has shared his advice on over 1,700 radio stations, reaching over 16.5 million listeners and countless more via his regular contributions via online publications such as Yahoo.com, Galtime.com, Dr. Oz and Oprah’s ShareCare.com, DrLaura.com, Wellness.com, plus his own JustAskDavid.com.
Today, David Pollock sits on the board of several skin care companies, advises a number of different brands and retailers, and is a consumers advocate empowering women to take control of their health and beauty – from the inside out. -
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- Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received Yes
- Host Andrea Donsky, RHN and Lisa Davis, MPH
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- Segment Number 4
- Audio File naturally_savvy/1438ns3d.mp3
- Featured Speaker Beth Shaw, author
- Book Title Yogalean: Poses and Recipes to Promote Weight Loss and Vitality for Life!
- Guest Website YogaFit
- Guest Twitter Account @BethShawYoga
- Guest Bio Beth Shaw is the president and founder of the world-renowned YogaFit™ training systems and the author of Beth Shaw’s YogaFit. She and her company have been featured in O: The Oprah Magazine, Time, More, Entrepreneur, Yoga Journal, Glamour, Self, and USA Today, as well as on CNN, NBC, CBS, Showtime, and E! Entertainment Television. She lives in Beverly Hills, California.
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- Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received Yes
- Host Andrea Donsky, RHN and Lisa Davis, MPH
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- Segment Number 3
- Audio File naturally_savvy/1438ns3c.mp3
- Featured Speaker Laura Kronen, author
- Book Title Too Sweet: The Not So Serious Side to Diabetes
- Guest Website Be You Only Better
- Guest Facebook Account https://www.facebook.com/beyouonlybetter?ref=ts
- Guest Twitter Account @beyouonlybetter
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Guest Bio
Laura Kronen has accomplished many things in a 23-year career that was nationally recognized by Inc. Magazine when it featured her as a top entrepreneur of the year. But she’s most proud of something that others go to great lengths to hide or downplay – she’s a diabetic who has learned to thrive both in spite of and because of her chronic condition.
It’s no surprise that Laura has a positive, even empowering attitude. She has served as the CEO of Be You Only Better, a transformational life coaching company she established six years ago. She provides motivational, entrepreneurial, health and wellness, and relationship coaching. Her life coaching techniques have literally changed people’s lives and enabled them to live up to their truest potential, giving them the necessary tools to achieve their dreams.
Laura is the author of a new book, Too Sweet: The Not-So-Serious Side to Diabetes. As a Type 1 diabetic, Laura is active with Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation and helps others find strength in overcoming the challenges of living with a disease that now afflicts 29 million Americans.
Her Be You Only Better blog features daily self-help articles on a variety of useful topics, from building self-confidence to facing fears. She also provides top reviews of fitness, beauty, and skincare products and services from all over the world.
Laura is certified in Advanced Transformational Leadership and is a Master Results Coach, Master Practitioner of NLP and Master Hypnotist in Ericksonian Hypnosis. She received a Bachelor of Science in Marketing from the University of Rhode Island.
Before making the rewarding transition as a life coach, Kronen introduced a number of innovative products to the marketplace. A visionary, Kronen created Belly Ups, which holds women’s low-rise pants and leggings up during pregnancy. Earlier in her career, after more than a decade of working at the director level in the glittering world of fashion and luxury goods public relations, Kronen developed, directed, and produced the multi award-winning Baby Road Trip video series.
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- Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received Yes
- Internal Notes repeat guest
- Host Andrea Donsky, RHN and Lisa Davis, MPH
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- Segment Number 2
- Audio File naturally_savvy/1438ns3b.mp3
- Featured Speaker Susan Smith Jones, PhD
- Guest Website Susan Smith Jones, PhD
- Guest Twitter Account @SusanSmithJones
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Guest Bio
For a woman with three of America’s most ordinary names, Susan Smith Jones, MS, PhD, has certainly made extraordinary contributions to the fields of holistic health, anti-aging, and human potential.
For starters, she taught students, staff and faculty how to be healthy and fit for 30 years at UCLA. Susan has established herself as one of the world’s foremost experts on diet and nutrition, high-level wellness, natural remedies and balanced living. She is the author of 27 books (including Walking on Air, The Joy Factor and Recipes for Health Bliss) and over 2,000 magazine articles on these topics, and has been a guest on more than 2,500 radio and TV shows.
Selected as one of 10 Healthy American Fitness Leaders by the President’s Council on Physical Fitness & Sports, Susan teaches that the body is designed to be self-repairing, self-renewing, and self-sustaining and that the power to live a radiantly healthy life is within everyone’s grasp. She hasn't been sick in 30 years and has never taken any prescription medications. -
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- Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received Yes
- Internal Notes repeat guest
- Host Andrea Donsky, RHN and Lisa Davis, MPH
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- Segment Number 1
- Audio File northshore/1438nh2a.mp3
- Doctors Pesce, Catherine
- Featured Speaker Dr. Catherine Pesce
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Dr. Pesce is a surgical oncologist at NorthShore specializing in breast cancer.
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Melanie Cole (Host): For women diagnosed with breast cancer, the experienced collaborative team of specialists at NorthShore Kellogg Cancer Center and its Center for Breast Health combine the most advanced scientific knowledge and technology with a comprehensive and compassionate approach to breast cancer treatment. My guest today is Dr. Catherine Pesce. She’s a surgical oncologist at NorthShore University Health System specializing in breast cancer. Welcome to the show, Dr. Pesce. After a woman has gotten her diagnosis, that’s a very scary time. Tell them what is next in the line. What do you do with them once they come to see you?
Dr. Catherine Pesce (Guest): Sure. After everyone gets a diagnosis, we always have them see a breast cancer specialist. That person is usually a surgeon. What I do with every patient, as I sit down and I first go over everything that has been done up to that point, including every type of test that they had, which usually includes a mammogram, ultrasound, possibly an MRI, a biopsy, I make sure I know the rest of their medical history. Then I examine the patient, and once the physical exam is over, then I usually have a patient get dressed and we sit in a conference room, and we just go step by step with all of my recommendations from that point on, which usually include, first, surgery, by myself, and then a consultation with a medical oncologist in order to determine what types of additional treatment would be needed after a surgery.
Melanie: In this personalized breast cancer treatment that you provide, when we’re talking about surgery, people think right away, Dr. Pesce, they think mastectomy. They think lumpectomy. There are many different ways that you do breast surgery today, and some of them are less invasive than others. Speak about them.
Dr. Pesce: Correct. For every patient with a diagnosis of breast cancer, there’s essentially two options. There is a lumpectomy versus a mastectomy. Now, a mastectomy means removal of the entire breast, and that’s what we used to do a long time ago on every patient with breast cancer. Even for very small tumors, everyone had a mastectomy. But what we showed with six different clinical trials for breast cancer is that we don’t need to be removing all of the breast, especially in women with an early-stage breast cancer. We can do what’s called s lumpectomy, where we remove just a part of the breast with the tumor. However, after that, you do need to have after-surgery radiation to the breast, and that is done in order to have equal survival as well as nearly equal recurrence risk as those that have that undergo a mastectomy.
Melanie: And as lumpectomies have changed over the years, you do a radioactive seed localization lumpectomy. Speak about what that is and how it differs from what we used to get.
Dr. Pesce: Sure. For example, when a woman comes in with a very small tumor and I say they can have a lumpectomy, if I can feel the mass, then we just go right to the OR and we can remove it that way based on my ability to feel it or palpate it. Now, in a lot of women, thanks to mammogram, we catch cancers at a very early stage where we can’t even feel the mass. Now, when it is so small that I can’t see it or feel it, we need some help to help guide us through the lumpectomy to know exactly what part of the breast needs to be removed. And the standard, classic way we’ve always done that is by something called a wire localization, where truly, a patient comes in before surgery and a wire is placed into the breast and the tip of the wire is right where the tumor is. And I use that wire to help guide me down and find exactly where the tumor is that way. It is not exact. It is a little bit of a guessing game each time as a surgeon as you’re doing that procedure. We get great results. However, what we started doing at NorthShore as a surgery that I’ve implemented is something called a radioactive seed localization, where, instead of a wire, we place a small seed into the breast, right where the tumor is, and that can be placed up to five days before surgery. It doesn’t have to be the exact date of surgery, which also makes that day shorter for them. We do it when it’s convenient for them. And then, in the OR, we have a special probe. It’s a handheld device that when we scan over the breast, it makes a very loud noise right when we’re over the seed, which is in the tumor. And it’s a much more exact and accurate way of removing the tumor. We also have some evidence so far that this is decreasing what’s called our positive margin rate, which means we get all the cancer out in one surgery and to a higher extent, versus with the wire localization, sometimes we have to go back in for a second surgery even to get all of the cancer. So, really, really exciting stuff.
Melanie: That is exciting. And what are women experiencing after? Would you take the seed out then after?
Dr. Pesce: Correct. During the lumpectomy, my job is to get the tumor, which also has a clip in it, usually which was placed at the time of the biopsy, as well as the radioactive seed. Once it’s taken out, we take an x-ray of it while we’re in the OR, and we make sure that those three things are accounted for—the tumor, the clip, as well as the radioactive seed.
Melanie: Now, Dr. Pesce, we hear radioactive seed and people right away think of radiation. Is there any risk to the seed?
Dr. Pesce: Sure, that’s a great question, something I always get asked and is important to go over. The best part of this procedure is while we do say the word “radioactive,” it’s extremely low dose of radiation. You could hold an infant up to your chest and there would be no risk involved whatsoever. This is not a seed which is providing any sort of treatment for breast cancer. A lot of times, people know about radioactive seeds in prostate cancer, and that is actually treating prostate cancer. This is completely different. This is a radioactive isotope which is truly low-dose, and really, it’s only used in there so that we can find the tumor and take it out.
Melanie: And then, after the tumor is out, what is the next step for these patients and their personalized treatment? I understand it’s individual, but then what? How long does it take to recover from this radioactive seed localization? Lumpectomy, and then what’s the next step?
Dr. Pesce: Sure. With this procedure, in general, women can expect to be sore for about two to three days. I usually find about a week after surgery, most women feel great. They’re asking me if they can exercise again, which I take it they’re feeling pretty good. I always bring a patient back in order to check on their incisions, make sure everything’s looking good, as well as at that appointment, they also meet with their medical oncologist. And at that point, we go over all the results once again, and we talk about what further treatment might be necessary. There’s different types of treatments, including radiation, like we talked about. There’s something called hormonal therapy, which is a pill that a patient would take once a day for five years. And then, like most cancers, there is chemotherapy and the decision of whether or not that will be needed.
Melanie: Thank you so much, Dr. Catherine Pesce. And in the last minute or two, tell listeners why they should come to NorthShore University Health System and Kellogg Cancer Center for their breast care health.
Dr. Pesce: I just love NorthShore. It is a wonderful, wonderful, well-run system. For every patient that comes in from the moment that they get their mammogram, to the end day of treatment, they have someone walking them through every step of the process. It’s a very integrative group of physicians, nurses, nurse practitioners, therapists, counselors. It’s just a wonderful group that so many people that are there to support them throughout every step of the process, to know that they will get through this. There’s a bump in the road, but in the end, every patient, our goal is we get them through this and they move on with their life. And that’s what’s so great about NorthShore.
Melanie: Thank you so much. And for more information on the Kellogg Cancer Center and the Center for Breast Health, you can go to northshore.org. That’s northshore.org. You’re listening to NorthShore Health and Wellness. This is Melanie Cole. Thank you so much for listening.
Additional Info
- Segment Number 4
- Audio File train_your_body/1438tb2d.mp3
- Featured Speaker Pam Peeke, MD
- Organization ACSM
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Guest Bio
Dr. Pamela Peeke is an internationally recognized expert, physician, scientist and author in the fields of nutrition, stress, fitness and public health. On stage or in front of a camera, she combines her trademark energy, wit and humor with the latest scientific data to motivate and educate audiences of all ages to transform themselves to a path of healthy living.
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Transcription
- Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received No
- Host Melanie Cole, MS