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- Segment Number 3
- Audio File healthy_talk/1514ht4c.mp3
- Featured Speaker Jamie Grifo, MD, PhD
- Book Title The Whole Life Fertility Plan: Understanding What Affects Your Fertility To Help You Get Pregnant When You Want To
- Guest Website Jamie Grifo
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Guest Bio
Jamie Grifo, MD, PhD, is Program Director of the New York University (NYU) Fertility Center. He is also Director of Reproductive Endocrinology and Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology at the NYU Langone Medical Center.
As Co-Directorof the NYU Egg Freezing Division, his team has created one of the largest egg preservation programs and is currently developing a new generation of embryo screening. Dr. Grifo's research in pre-implantation genetic diagnosis/screening (PGD/PGS) led to the delivery of the first healthy baby in the U.S. using the embryo biopsy procedure he developed.
He has appeared on CBS This Morning, NBC's Today Show, Good Morning America, Oprah and has been interviewed and featured in countless print media outlets including the New Yorker, New York Times, Newsweek, and Wall Street Journal. -
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RadioMD Presents: Healthy Talk | Original Air Date: April 2, 2015
Host: Michael Smith, MD
Healthy Talk with Dr. Michael Smith, MD. And now, here's the country doctor with the city education, Dr. Mike:
DR MIKE: So, my guest is Dr. Jamie Grifo. He is the program director of the New York University Fertility Center and he co-authored a book, The Whole Life Fertility Plan.Dr. Grifo, welcome to Healthy Talk.
DR GRIFO: Thank you.
DR. MIKE: So, we started, at the end of the last segment, talking a little bit about stress and how that affects conception, so I'm going to come back to that. But before we do, in my first segment today, I was talking about the genome wide association studies and genetic testing and the power of prevention. Before we started your first segment, that seemed to spark an interest in you, so I wanted to give you an opportunity to talk a little bit about what are we doing in terms of testing with conception?
DR GRIFO: Well, there are two elements to that. One is, we all have our own individual risk of passing on recessive genetic diseases to babies and now we have the ability to find out if we're carriers and if we both carry a particular mutation, say, for instance, for cystic fibrosis and both the husband and wife carry it, 25% of the babies will have a very serious medical problem. You can prevent patients from conceiving a baby with such a serious illness. We have the technology now to test embryos for these diseases and avoid having an embryo transferred that has a lifelong disease ahead of them.
So, we can prevent things and, as you said, prevention is really one of the best things we can do in medicine and we have to leverage technology to do it. We have those options for the people that choose it. On top of that, one of the things that we've learned is that the age-related decline in fertility that we see with women is because as eggs get older, they make embryos that are more likely to be chromosomally abnormal. We have found that the biggest cause of failure to conceive, failure of IVF cycles, is that embryos that look good under the microscope are chromosomally abnormal and don't make babies, they make miscarriages, sometimes. Usually they just don't make a pregnancy. Sometimes, they make a baby with Down's syndrome.
Now, we have the tools we can test every embryo before we put it back. By leveraging that tool, we're now testing all of our embryos, putting back a single chromosomally normal embryo, getting pregnancy rates that are age-independent and low miscarriage rates and not having to tell somebody at 16 weeks, they have a baby with Down's syndrome. So, the world is changing in the world of IVF. Now, in the United States, 2% of the babies born are through in vitro fertilization. So, this is mainstream. This is happening every day.
DR. MIKE: When you say that, though, I understand. But, you're the specialist so when you say that you're testing embryos and, to you, it's mainstream, but how often is an everyday couple getting genetic testing like this in small town, USA?
DR GRIFO: Well--and that's a problem. I recommend when you're ready to go get pregnant, you go see your obstetrician and you do preventative measures like genetic screening to find out your risk and, mainly, you'll be reassured that your chance of having a baby with disease is very, very low, but you may find out that you both carry a significant recessive gene. For instance, cystic fibrosis, Tay-Sachs, Gaucher, Canavan. There are hundreds of these diseases. They're found out, mainly, by the baby being born and we now have technology that's not expensive to do these tests, simple blood tests to find out your risk and minimize your risk so that babies can be born that are healthy and not suffer. Most people find out they carry recessive genes by having a baby with the disease.
DR. MIKE: At that point, it's devastating to them, right? It's almost a little too late.
DR GRIFO: It changes their life.
DR. MIKE: Dr. Grifo, the last question on this and we'll move into the stress part. How far are we away from taking an embryo we have identified with cystic fibrosis or Tay-Sach, whatever it is, and doing gene therapy at the embryo level?
DR GRIFO: We're very far away from that. It's interesting. I did the first embryo biopsy in the United States in 1992. We were the second in the world to do it, mainly because we couldn't get permission from the regulators to do it until the Brits were successful. So, we've been doing this a long time. Everybody's fear was that we were going to use this to select traits and we just, number one, don't have the technology to do that, nor the desire. We're about helping babies be born that are healthy and that's really what this technology is. There are lots of fears about how it is used and potentially misused. But, we're using it to help people have healthy, good outcomes.
DR. MIKE: I just find gene therapy, to me, is just a fascinating field and the concept is pretty straightforward. Replacing a bad gene with a good gene. I know we're able to replicate that and do that in certain laboratory settings and stuff. So, I think that that is an exciting field and I'm glad to see that you're on top of that.
Let's move the conversation. We have maybe a couple minutes left. Let's move the conversation over, though, to, I think, something's that's more relevant for most of my listeners right now: the stress in our lives. Here you have maybe a couple trying to conceive, but the lives that we're living today; I mean, this constant 24-hour information cycle, this "go, go, go" attitude in this country. What is that doing to us and what are some of the things you can tell a couple to de-stress a little bit so they can conceive?
DR GRIFO: Well, you know, it's very clear that the fight or flight response which we're all exposed to multiple times a day has an impact on ovulation and also on the environment for an embryo to develop. While it's not contraception, per se, it's not an absolute reason not to get pregnant, but what it can do is lower your chances. There are studies that suggest that you manage your stress well—not take it away, because no one can, but manage it—that you might get better outcomes. But, on top of that, the real problem is, when you're an infertility patient, that alone is a huge stress and, you know, on top of that, you have the pressure of not being stressed when you're probably going through one of the most stressful things in your life. So, just managing it to help you get through it is more important than whether it has an effect on outcomes.
So, there are lots of things that one can do to manage their stress and make it better. Some of those are simple things. Things you do by yourself. You figure out on your own. You know, things like acupuncture can work for some, if they find it relaxing and helpful; meditation; yoga. Just taking yourself out of the environment. Just breathing and managing and recognizing your stress and trying to minimize your exposure to it can have an impact. So, don't stress about stress. You're going to be stressed going through fertility treatment. You can't take it away, but manage it.
DR. MIKE: So, let me shift gears here. When should a couple go and see a specialist like yourself? At what point do they say, "Okay. Something's not right here."
DR GRIFO: Infertility is defined as a year of trying and not getting pregnant. But if you're under 30, you could wait that long unless it's bothering you. If it's bothering you, you should get a workup because it's oftentimes a simple correction or a simple thing that we find that we can fix that makes a difference. Certainly, women over 30, and especially over 35, should not wait a year to come see a doctor.
They should, with 3-6 months of trying, be in getting evaluated, getting tested and making sure there are no obstacles. Treatment starts with simple stuff that's not that involved, not that invasive, not that expensive and often very efficient. Then, ultimately, there are much more sophisticated, technology driven, but highly efficient, techniques like in vitro fertilization as well as in vitro fertilization with genetic testing of embryos, which turns out to be one of the biggest problems. Most people are making embryos that are abnormal. You've got to find the one good one.
DR. MIKE: So, when a couple needs to go see someone like you, are insurances covering visits to a specialist like yourself?
D
R GRIFO: In our area, in New York, they cover the diagnosis and they may not cover treatment, although more and more, they're covering treatment, but diagnostic aspects of this generally are covered by insurance. But you have to check and see your policy. Every policy is different.
DR. MIKE: Alright. Dr. Grifo, we're going to have to leave it there. The website, if you want to learn more about what Dr. Grifo is doing, it's JamieGrifoMD.com.
This is Healthy Talk on RadioMD. I'm Dr. Mike. Stay well. - Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received No
- Host Mike Smith, MD
You may not realize that the food you put in your mouth can affect your ability to conceive.
Additional Info
- Segment Number 2
- Audio File healthy_talk/1514ht4b.mp3
- Featured Speaker Jamie Grifo, MD, PhD
- Book Title The Whole Life Fertility Plan: Understanding What Affects Your Fertility To Help You Get Pregnant When You Want To
- Guest Website Jamie Grifo
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Guest Bio
Jamie Grifo, MD, PhD, is Program Director of the New York University (NYU) Fertility Center. He is also Director of Reproductive Endocrinology and Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology at the NYU Langone Medical Center.
As Co-Directorof the NYU Egg Freezing Division, his team has created one of the largest egg preservation programs and is currently developing a new generation of embryo screening. Dr. Grifo's research in pre-implantation genetic diagnosis/screening (PGD/PGS) led to the delivery of the first healthy baby in the U.S. using the embryo biopsy procedure he developed.
He has appeared on CBS This Morning, NBC's Today Show, Good Morning America, Oprah and has been interviewed and featured in countless print media outlets including the New Yorker, New York Times, Newsweek, and Wall Street Journal. -
Transcription
RadioMD Presents: Healthy Talk | Original Air Date: April 2, 2015
Host: Michael Smith, MD
Anti-aging and disease prevention radio is right here on RadioMD. Here's author, blogger, lecturer and national medical media personality, Dr. Michael Smith, MD, with Healthy Talk.
DR MIKE: So, you know, maybe you're trying to conceive and maybe having some issues. So, I wanted to bring on a guest who could talk a little bit about what our diet and maybe lifestyle can do to hamper or help us to have a baby.
His name is Dr. Jamie Grifo. He's a medical doctor and program Director of the New York University Fertility Center. He's the Director of Reproductive Endocrinology and a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at NYU Medical Center. Dr. Grifo's research led to the delivery of the first healthy baby in the U.S. using the embryo biopsy procedure he developed. He has been on many media outlets: CBS This Morning; NBC's Today Show; Good Morning, America; Oprah. He's written for The New Yorker; The New York Times. He's really been all over with his research and it's an honor to have Dr. Grifo on the show. He's also co-author of The Whole Life Fertility Plan. Dr. Grifo, welcome to Healthy Talk
DR GRIFO: Thank you, so much. Good morning.
DR MIKE: So, let's get right into this. Maybe I should just start off with, "So, how does our diet and lifestyle affect conception?"
DR GRIFO: Well, first of all, a bad diet is not contraception, but it does have an impact on the efficiency of a very complicated system and from the female perspective, the production of an egg and an environment for an egg to develop into an embryo and grow into baby is dependent on nutrients and if they're missing or absent or diminished, they can have effects on development. So, a good, healthy lifestyle is important. If you have a diet that's lacking in fat, that's not a good thing. This idea that low fat is a good idea is wrong. There's evidence that protein is very important for embryo development and with a diet deficient in protein, embryo development is compromised and, thus, pregnancy rates are as well. It's kind of common sense. There's not a whole lot to it. A balanced diet of fresh fruits and vegetables, lots of protein and a good 30% of your calories from fat, 25% of your calories from protein and just good, healthy nutritious food and then you've done everything you can do.
DR MIKE: Well, Dr. Grifo, it might...I mean to us, it's easy. It makes sense, but the Standard American Diet is not very balanced and not healthy and I think that this is an important topic. I think more people need to realize that maybe we need to start at the basics, right?
DR GRIFO: Oh, absolutely. No, it's really critical, but whole, healthy, natural foods can solve a lot of problems and processed foods just aren't going to give you the nutrients you need.
DR MIKE: Yes. Dr. Grifo, there was a recent report, and I want to say I saw it on CNN maybe a couple of nights ago, that 60% of our calories are coming from processed foods now.
DR GRIFO: Yes. That's just not optimal.
DR MIKE: That's pretty bad.
DR GRIFO: You know, they lack the nutrients that Mother Nature puts in there. Anything that you pluck out of the ground is going to have lots of healthy stuff in it. Stuff we don't even know about—we think we understand everything there is to know about nutrition. We don't. There are lots of micronutrients and things we just have yet to learn about and they must impact our health.
DR MIKE: Yes. Good point. So, this question came up from a listener awhile back and I really didn't know how to answer it, so I thought since I was having you on, I'd let you answer this. The question was:
"Should I be worried about my lipstick if I'm trying to get pregnant?" Why is she even bringing that question up?
DR GRIFO: Yes. Because there's lead actually in some of these lipsticks and it's not published on the side of the bottle how much is there and then, does it get absorbed and does it affect your eggs and the developing embryo? No one knows, but it's not an experiment we're ever going to do to try and find out. It can't be good putting lead on your lips and then swallowing it. You know, you have to be careful about the kind of lipstick that you use and actually micromanage those facts. A lot of products that we use every day...
DR MIKE: Oh, so this listener is pretty in to it.
DR GRIFO: Excuse me?
DR MIKE: Yes, so this listener was actually pretty on top of things.
DR GRIFO: She probably read our book because in our book there's a segment about that—about some of the lipsticks that do have lead in them and no one knows. So, do your homework.
DR MIKE: So, the diet's important. We know that the fresh fruit is important. The chemicals in our environment. I think in your book, The Whole Life Fertility Plan, you also wrote about plastics. What's the issue there?
DR GRIFO: Well, there is some evidence that BPA's interfere with embryo development and also affect fertility and are associated with higher miscarriage rates. The problem with a lot of these studies is they're all statistical studies and they don't show a direct cause and effect. There are just so many unanswered questions that you have to be careful about what you expose yourself to and the more natural the product, the less likely it is to be of harm. Maybe you shouldn't microwave your things in plastic and maybe you should just make fresh food out of the garden or out of the garden part of your store and just eat good, healthy, fresh food. There are all these concerns and there is data supporting them and there are not the answers that we would all love to have that are definitive. So, you just have to use common sense and be smart about your choices.
DR MIKE: So, let's shift the question, though, to age, then, at this point. So, we're going to eat cleaner. We know that. Like we said, some of the basics, but those basics are important. Watch the chemicals and not just in lipstick, but even in the processed foods, right? Everyday household products, air fresheners. All that kind of stuff. What about the age of a woman or the age of a man? I mean, how old is too old, I guess?
DR GRIFO: Yes. That's a great question and Mother Nature's been very unkind in her system design. Men have germ cells in their testicle that every 90 days, they make a fresh sperm population and when those sperm are created and go through myosis, 99.9% of them are chromosomally normal. Women's eggs, however, are different. A woman has all the eggs she's ever going to have as a fetus, when she's 20 weeks in her mother's womb and that's about 7 million. She's born with 1-2 million, gets to puberty, has 600,000 and then every month, selects 500 of those eggs to ovulate one good one, which most of the time isn't good.
As she gets older and those eggs go through myosis at the time of ovulation and fertilization, so when a 40 year old ovulates, you've got 100 women pregnant, one of them has Down's syndrome whereas at 25, you've got 12,050 women pregnant and 1 of them has Down's syndrome. So, age is a big factor in female fertility and the decline of female fertility and the increased risk for a baby with a genetic abnormality—not a congenital abnormality. Also, miscarriage rates are higher and the fertility declines 50% from age 30-40 and every 2 years after 40. Pretty much, over the age of 44, most women having babies are not telling you it's from an egg donor because eggs at that age just don't make babies very efficiently.
So, women have to know these facts in terms of planning their fertile life. Not that you can plan your fertile life. You can't plan the guy, but the longer you wait, the more likely you are to have to end up seeing somebody like me and, as you said earlier, prevention is the best thing. So, know your facts. Do your homework and try and make good decisions.
DR MIKE: Yes. We'll talk a little bit about that prevention aspect during the break. Just to listeners know, Dr. Grifo was really interested in talking about some of that genetic testing he can do. We'll get into that maybe in the next segment. I wanted to, lastly, wrap this up with, you had another part in your book that I thought was interesting about acupuncture. Is that good or does that help?
DR GRIFO: So, stress is not--again, it's not contraception, but a highly stressed individual who's in that fight or flight response doesn't ovulate efficiently and the quality of the environment and egg for an embryo to develop is minimized. So, managing your stress is very important while going through fertility treatment.
Fertility treatment alone is incredibly stressful. Stress isn't a cause of infertility, but managing it can help the outcome.
DR MIKE: Dr. Grifo, let's hold that thought because I want to get into more about stress and what stress management can do for conception and we'll talk, also, about some genetic testing as well.
This is Healthy Talk on RadioMD. I'm Dr. Mike. Stick around. - Length (mins) 10
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- Host Mike Smith, MD
If you were to get a genetic test, what are its limitations?
Additional Info
- Segment Number 1
- Audio File healthy_talk/1514ht4a.mp3
- Organization Life Extension
- Guest Website Healthy Talk MD
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Transcription
RadioMD Presents: Healthy Talk | Original Air Date: April 2, 2015
Host: Michael Smith, MD
Anti-aging and disease prevention radio is right here on RadioMD. Here's author, blogger, lecturer and national medical media personality, Dr. Michael Smith, MD, with Healthy Talk.
DR MIKE: Is genetic testing all hype? Well, let me give you a simple answer. No. Absolutely not. No way. It's really, really cool and I'm excited about the potential that genetic testing has, specifically in disease prevention. But, I do think we need to make sure there's no confusion here. I'm not talking about gene therapy. That's different. As a matter of fact, I had a couple friends of mine who were listening to President Obama's last State of the Union address and he apparently talked about the exciting field of gene therapy, genomics, and he wants to put more money into that. I think that's great. As a matter of fact, I have the quote here. This is he said:
"I want the country that eliminated polio and mapped the human genome to lead a new era of medicine. In some patients cystic fibrosis, this approach has reversed disease once thought unstoppable," adding that, "This kind of personalized medicine could lead to cures for cancer and diabetes."
So, what he's really referring to there is something called "gene therapy" where you identify a mutated gene in somebody with cystic fibrosis. That's tough to say. Say that three times real fast. You replace the bad gene with a good one. It's gene therapy. We're making some headway there, but my personal opinion is that's still well into the future. At least, bringing gene therapy into everyday practice is well into the future. But, that's awesome. We need to put some more money behind it. Thank you, President Obama. I think that's a great idea and I'd love to see more research.
But, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about genetic testing—what are called "genome wide association studies". It's different because what we're doing with genome wide association studies, what we're calling "genetic testing" is looking at a healthy person, scanning their DNA and identifying small little changes in genes that might mean developing a disease later. That kind of information is powerful because what I can do now is create a personalized program—a preventative program for that person to decrease the risk of developing that disease that their genes say they might be prone to getting. That's genetic testing. It's powerful because we all know that if we want to save money; if we want to save lives, the best way to do that is not to get disease in the first place. So, gene therapy is awesome. I want President Obama to really do what he said here in the State of the Union address. I want to see more money looking at gene therapy, but we can already do a lot with genetic testing in what are called "genome wide association studies" in disease prevention, which is really where the power lies in health and longevity.
So, what I want to present to you are some slides that I did for a conference out in New Jersey called The Dr. Magaziner Conference. Dr. Magaziner is, you might call him one of the original practitioners, one of the "fathers", if you will, of integrative medicine. He does a yearly conference out there in New Jersey. I was invited. Suzanne Somers was there this past year. I presented a lecture on personalized medicine and it kind of went with my book, The Supplement Pyramid about building personalized nutritional medicine. In this lecture, I talked towards the end about genetic testing and the power it can do in helping us to prevent disease.
So, what is a genome wide association study? This is the whole basis of genetic testing. What you do is, you take people that have been diagnosed, without a doubt, with something like depression and you get maybe 1000 of them. The more the better. Ten thousand. So, 10,000 (I'm just making these numbers up) with major depression disorder. Absolutely diagnosed. There are no if, ands or buts about it. These people have major depression. You scan their genome and what you look for are common small changes to their genes. These are called "single nucleotide polymorphisms".
So, you take all 10,000 people, you draw their blood, you scan all these genomes and you find where there are these genetic changes that are common to all of these people with major depression. Let's say you find 10 genes that have three or four small changes in them and 90% of the people with major depression have those same changes. That's a genome wide association, see? So, now what you can do, if you're interested, you can check your own genome. Get your own blood drawn and check your genome and see if you have some of those same changes. If you do, that might be an indication that you are at risk for major depression. If your genes and those small changes match, those changes that people with major depression have, maybe that's an indication that you need to go on a depression prevention protocol. That's the power of genetic testing. It's really not that hard. Blood is probably the best way to do it, but you can do saliva. They do a Q-tip and just go around your mouth. What you're going to do is collect your blood or saliva. You're then going to map out your genome looking for certain small, little changes that have already been noted in certain diseases. As a matter of fact, there's a website. The website is genome.gov/gwastudies. That stands for "genome wide association studies". That's genome.gov/gwastudies. What you'll find on that site are all the different, small little genetic changes they have found with, I think, about 200 common diseases. So, you, literally, can go in there and compare your genes with this database and see if you have any of these changes. The government has set up this really cool page on this site where there's a search bar and you can put in "depression", for instance. You'll see the results, then, of all the different small, genetic changes that are associated with major depression and you can just see if you have those changes based on your own genome and your own results.
Again, why is this so interesting to me? Why is this so powerful? Well, because if I know that kind of information, now I can really personalize my approach in helping you in preventing depression. I can do the same thing with diabetes. I can do the same with age-related mild cognitive dysfunction. I can do the same thing with liver disease and kidney disease. I mean, there's a whole host of genome wide association studies that we've already done. As a matter of fact, the very first one was done with macular degeneration, the most common cause of blindness in people over 60, or 65.
I mean, I could test your blood against that and say, "Oh, yes. You have those same changes. People that have macular degeneration have these changes and, guess what? You kind of match those. We need to put you on a macular degeneration prevention protocol." Do you see the power in that? That's what medicine is about. If I can prevent you from getting ill, man! That's really what my job is.
If you don't get ill, I mean, that's how we're going to save money. That's how we're really going to impact health and longevity. So, genetic testing is awesome. It's not all hype. It is stepping up what it should be: the most powerful prevention tool that we're soon going to have and, hopefully, be using in everyday practice. Right? Part of your daily routine should be to start checking your genome, "Hey, you've got the genes for cognitive dysfunction. We need to protect you from that." That's the power of genetic testing.
This is Healthy Talk on RadioMD. I'm Dr. Mike. Stay well. - Length (mins) 10
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- Host Mike Smith, MD
Earthing is the concept of healing your body (and soul) by getting closer to Mother Earth and connecting to nature.
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- Segment Number 5
- Audio File naturally_savvy/1514ns3e.mp3
- Featured Speaker Shaman Isabella Stoloff
- Guest Website Orange County Healing Center
- Guest Twitter Account @isabellastoloff
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Guest Bio
Shaman Isabella Stoloff is a dynamic leader. She founded the Orange County Healing Center in 2009 and since that time has committed herself to leaving the world a better place. Isabella has been called the Golden Condor and World Ambassador. She has traveled to connect people to their inner wisdom and provide ceremonies for the land. She has a full time practice, writes articles, a YouTube channel, and does guest spots to carry the message of enlightenment. Isabella is a mother and grandmother and understands what is needed today to raise a conscious family. Shaman Isabella feels honored to be on the planet during this time of great awakening. She feels once you empower yourself through positive thought and action you will feel connected and centered. Isabella’s message is to awaken to the light that you are, so you can become the Shaman in your own life.
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Transcription
RadioMD Presents: Naturally Savvy | Original Air Date: April 1, 2015
Hosts: Andrea Donsky, RHN & Lisa Davis
Guest: Shaman Isabella Stoloff
Your organic search is over. Here's Naturally Savvy with health experts, Andrea Donsky and Lisa Davis.
LISA: It has been a long, cold winter for so many of us all over the country. One of the things that I miss most is walking barefoot on the earth. I am such a nature girl. It has been really tough, but I can see little bits of grass here and there and I am very excited.
We're all so excited to have the wonderful shaman, Isabella Stoloff. She's going to be joining us once a month on the show. The first Wednesday of the month in the last segment and we're so thrilled.
Hello there.
SHAMAN: Hi! Hi! Hi! Thank you for having me again and having me on as a regular. Wow!
LISA: Yay! Oh, we're so thrilled. And, we're going to have to walk barefoot in the grass together because seriously. Now, you're in the L.A. area, I understand?
SHAMAN: I'm in Orange County. So, Orange County is south of L.A. The OrangeCountyHealingCenter.com is where you can find me and it's still my small home in [inaudible 1:14] then you know about where I am. South of L.A. But, it's so great.
LISA: You can walk barefoot a lot.
SHAMAN: Yes. Well, Andrea, do you want to tell them what happened?
ANDREA: Oh, well, we had a really good time. For me, it was so interesting because I wanted to really understand what a shaman was. Isabella took me back to the Center. I mean, the energy is just incredible. She gave me a stone and she did a bit of healing on me. Unfortunately, we were in a bit of a time crunch.
SHAMAN: We (inaudible)
ANDREA: But, she did do a healing on me.
LISA: How exciting.
SHAMAN: Yes. Yes.
ANDREA: We had a little bit of play in there, too. We had some fun.
SHAMAN: I brought her out the back yard so that she could see the medicine wheel and see the Orange County Healing Center. And, Lisa. You're next.
LISA: Yay! Sign me up.
SHAMAN: You're next.
LISA: Oh, it sounds lovely. I definitely want to come.
SHAMAN: I sent you guys a couple of links—I don't know if you had a chance to look at them. I'm obviously not going to be able to say them right now, unfortunately, but it's all on earthing. So, there's a man-made earthing mat. I prefer, actually, to put my feet in the ground but for those of you that are in the winter months and only have the snow, look up "earthing mats" and find out how to get one of those because I'm hearing they're all the rage. The links that I sent you all through the email, on that page, shows pictures of yours cells and how they change when you're on the earthing mat. So, same way as they change when you're on the earth. So, today's show is about how to heal yourself through the earth and I just believed in it hysterically, you know? My thing is I listen to spirit and I listen to my own intuition and it always says, "You know, you're having a hard day. Get outside and put your feet in the dirt. Walk on the grass. Actually stick your feet in the mud." And, it actually can reduce lots of inflammation in the body. It can reduce any kind of illness that you're having. So, you know, think about it. In the olden days, all we did was walk for miles and miles and miles and walk for miles and miles and miles and sleep on the ground, right? Now, we're either in little cubicles or we're hanging out of our home or we're in an office and inside of a building more often than not. Trying to get to the gym, maybe, to work out. How many of you are gym rats out there? You're still not getting the benefits of the earth. So, Mother Earth is a living, breathing organism just as we are. I've always felt like we are made up of the earth in some way. So, now, scientific studies are coming out. They're taking pictures of your cells. It's a proven fact.
ANDREA: You know, it's interesting. I just recently got into earthing, probably about 6 months ago and I bought a product, a mat, and then something we could sleep on. I gave it to my son to sleep on. When I was in Mexico a couple of months ago, I made sure to walk every day on the beach barefoot to make sure that I was connecting with the earth. So, I believe in it and I try hard to do it. What are some of the ways that people can do it if they're not on a beach and they're in their office or their home? What are some easy things that people can do in order to do the earthing?
SHAMAN: Well, right away, I said the earthing mats. Whoever that gentleman is that created it. Just look up "earthing mat" on Google. I'm sure you'll find it. What I do, very simply is, I go outside. I put my feet in the dirt. I make a little mud pile. Now, for those of you, again, stuck in the snow, probably even just having some snow probably. Even snow has some kind of benefits. Going out and snowshoeing.
LISA: Oh, that's interesting.
SHAMAN: Or, being out with nature. It's really about connecting to the trees. Connecting to nature and I know in the past everybody says, "Oh, that hippie dippie stuff. Woo woo…" But it's now being scientifically proven that your cell has memory; that your cell is a living, breathing organism just as Mother Earth is. So, I like to have a sea salt bath and if you go to, if you can't jump in the ocean, you can make your own at home. So, if you go to my website, OCHealthingCenter.com, and look at my shaman's log, there will be a little search menu and you can put in "fire ceremony sea salt bath". Now, fire ceremony, another very powerful way to release. I have an "at home" method for people that don't have access to a fire or are living in the cold. Just don't breathe it in. It's toxic. (laughter) But, I created this little blog about how to have an "at home" fire and do a fire ceremony for yourself and how to have a sea salt bath with baking soda and get up and rinse in after. So, in the old days, we used to take care of…Mother Earth takes care of herself with fire and flood. Fire and flood. That's Mother Earth, right? In the old days, we sat around the fire; talked about the hunt. We jumped in the lake and oceans to rinse off our bodies. So now, you can get back to the ways of old just by following that little blog that I wrote of how to have an "at home" fire and a sea salt bath. And, another great way, I know you girls knew I was going to do this, but I'm taking everyone to Peru in October. So, Machu Picchu and the Sacred Valley and you want to get connected to your soul. You want to find health and wellness from the earth? Come with me to Peru October 6-16. Same website. OCHealthingCenter.com. You can find the information. If you mention Lisa Davis and Andrea Donsky, you will still be eligible for the $600 discount because after March 1, the price went up.
So, congratulations to Naturally Savvy Radio listeners, if you'd like to come.
LISA: That's quite a savings. Wow! That's exciting.
SHAMAN: You can get [inaudible 7:39] So, really…Okay, so we talk about consciousness, right? We talk about being conscious in our thoughts and conscious with our words. Be conscious with your earth. Earth Day is coming up. 4/20 is Earth Day. Connect to nature in some way every day. Give your thanks to the earth. She's a living, breathing organism just as you are. There is really…The only…Maybe—maybe she even has consciousness. I was about to say the only difference between us and Mother Earth is we have a conscious mind but, who knows? Who knows? Mother Earth may have a conscious mind of her own and the more we connect to her, the more we connect to nature, the better off we'll be. Yes.
ANDREA: Isabella, we have about 20 seconds left and I just want to talk about really, really quickly, would stones help people to connect like to earth as well? Is it "to earth" or "to earthing" or "earthing". I don't know, I guess, what the proper way to say it would be, but would stones help?
SHAMAN: Would stones help for earthing? Yes. Absolutely. You guys, or, Andrea, saw my house filled with ginormous crystals. Get yourself some stones. Start to look up crystals, look up jasper. Yellow jasper is a great way to connect when I am holding a stone in my hand. You guys, breath and intention is everything. Go outside today. Pick up a stone. Throw all your troubles away. Stand in whatever earth you can and love yourself. Love every inch of yourself.
ANDREA: Thank you, Isabella. Thank you for being on the show. Learn more at OCHealingCenter.com. You can also follow Isabella on Twitter @IsabellaStoloff.
I'm Andrea Donsky along with my beautiful co-host, Lisa Davis.
This is Naturally Savvy on RadioMD. Like us on Facebook and follow us on Twitter @YourRadoMD and @NaturallySavvy.
Thanks for listening everyone. Definitely go out and do your earthing.
Stay well. - Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received Yes
- Host Andrea Donsky, RHN and Lisa Davis, MPH
Juicing trends have become more of the norm than a trend. But, how do you know if you're juicing with ingredients that can truly help you achieve your goals?
Additional Info
- Segment Number 4
- Audio File naturally_savvy/1514ns3d.mp3
- Featured Speaker Dr. Ginger
- Organization Dr. Ginger
- Guest Website The Rainbow Juice Cleanse
- Guest Twitter Account @ashleykoff
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Guest Bio
After graduating from the State University of New York at Stony Brook and going on to earn her doctorate degree at New York Chiropractic College, Dr. Ginger has specialized in helping to educate others to heal with a 3-pronged approach: 1. The Mind-Body Connection 2. Super-Nutrition 3. Detoxification.
Dr. Ginger is an author, wellness consultant and consumer health advocate. She has appeared as a TV medical correspondent, has taught at the world renown Hippocrates Health Institute, helped to develop the first policy for the “Surgeon General’s Report on Physical Activity & Health for Women,” and has worked for business tycoons, Donald Trump and NASCAR track owner, Bruton Smith.
Dr. Ginger, an authority on workplace wellness, is bucking the old system of "disease management" and is blazing a new trail with her "disease reversal" and “detox the body” approach to wellness, with her “Fat Funeral Detox” and her “7-Day Online Fat Funeral Detox Nutrition Bootcamp” programs, and assisting individuals, groups, and corporations with their health challenges and inspiring radical behavioral changes that translates into both lives and dollars saved. - Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received Yes
- Host Andrea Donsky, RHN and Lisa Davis, MPH
It's hard NOT to compare yourself to models in magazines, even if you know they've been nipped, tucked and airbrushed to Barbie status.
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- Segment Number 3
- Audio File naturally_savvy/1514ns3c.mp3
- Featured Speaker Alexandra Jamieson, Certified Holistic Health Counselor
- Guest Website Alexandra Jamieson
- Guest Twitter Account @deliciousalex
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Guest Bio
Alexandra Jamieson is a Certified Holistic Health Counselor, food blogger, and professional gourmet chef. Part of the dynamic duo behind the award-winning 2004 documentary Super Size Me, Alexandra has appeared on Oprah, CNN, and MSNBC, among others. She is the author of Vegan Cooking for Dummies (Wiley, 2010), Living Vegan for Dummies (Wiley, 2009), and The Great American Detox Diet (Macmillan, 2006). Alexandra offers one-on-one and group coaching sessions aimed at leading healthier, fuller lifestyles. She resides in Brooklyn, New York.
- Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received Yes
- Host Andrea Donsky, RHN and Lisa Davis, MPH
Whether you live in North America or somewhere in Africa, violence against women is still a very real problem.
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- Segment Number 2
- Audio File naturally_savvy/1514ns3b.mp3
- Featured Speaker Kelly LeBrock
- Guest Website Kelly's Kitchen
- Guest Twitter Account @kellylebrock
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Guest Bio
Kelly Le Brock, celebrated actress model, and soon to be author is taking #weirdscience to a whole new level through creating her foodie platform by blending social media channels, and a APP developed by Priceline founder and TEDMED curator Jay Walker. She is launching her lifelong passion project called Kellys Kitchen, leading into it as a "very busy" CHANGE AGENT for healthy eating and launching #calories4good, helping FOOD BANKs across America. You can see more on her social media and website. She started this journey by participating in Partnership for a Healthier America's Twitter Chat in 2014 resulting in over 100 million impressions. Kelly and the Food Network were the most retweeted #cookathome activist six days after the chat which had over 175 contributors.
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Transcription
RadioMD Presents: Naturally Savvy | Original Air Date: April 1, 2015
Hosts: Andrea Donsky, RHN & Lisa Davis
Guest: Kelly Le Brock
Whether you are new to the healthy living lifestyle or a healthy living veteran, this is the place for the honest answers to your questions. Naturally Savvy with registered holistic nutritionist, Andrea Donsky and health journalist, Lisa Davis, on RadioMD.com.
LISA: We are so thrilled to have Kelly Lebrock back on the program. She joins us every month and Andrea and I were so moved by a talk she gave at the UN about her own personal experiences with violence against women and things that have happened to her.
Kelly, we're just so thrilled to have you back.
KELLY: Thank you. It's lovely to be speaking to be speaking Boston and to two beautiful ladies. I tell you, speaking to the United Nations, I think rousted my mother from the dead. She loved politics. She loved government and to be speaking there was such an honor and they didn't even ask to read my speech before I read it, so that was even more of an honor. But, yes. It was very moving. A lot of women had been abused who were in the room. There were about 300 dignitaries and ambassadors and just to be in a room filled with such love with women all trying to move, to try and stop this hideous violence against women and children.
LISA: It brought tears to my eyes, really.
KELLY: And the beautiful Ilene Fisher, who is a designer, gave me some amazing clothes to wear for the event as well. I have to say, Ilene Fisher rocks because I am not usually comfortable in clothing, but I felt very comfortable in her things. That's for sure.
LISA: Oh, the clothing was beautiful. You looked just absolutely, absolutely gorgeous.
KELLY: Smoke and mirrors. Smoke and mirrors.
LISA: No.
KELLY: But, I have to say that I think in this society today that most of us know about most things, but there was a talk that some beautiful lady gave from Cameroon who talked about breast ironing where the grandmother takes the young girl's breasts and stones them with hot stones that she's put in boiling water and she pounds down the tissue of the mammary glands so that the girls won't be looked at by these hideous people that rape. Is that horrific?
LISA: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.
ANDREA: That is horrific.
KELLY: One of the things in my speech was that we're not going to be able to do much with the monsters that are doing this right now, but we can try and stop these young boys who are watching their papas beat their mamas. We have to try to help them from the sandpit to 3rd, 4th, 5th grade. There have to be classes where these kids know that it's not cool to hit a woman. It's not cool to bully. We have to make these people targets so that we know, you know, to stay away from them.
ANDREA: You know, something you said in your speech which, again, was super moving is you talked about listening to an abuser who took responsibility and you said how that really changed things for you. Tell us a little bit about that experience.
KELLY: Well, I can really do that part. My ability to feel my own pain came only about one day when a complete and absolute stranger stood up at a charity dinner to address the room of us blood-spattered women to apologize for his hideous part in beating his partner time and time again. His bravery and courage to face us all, somehow, for me flipped a little hope and healing into a very dark and sordid secret. His tears and mine fell together and I was, for the first time, thankful to an abuser for his promise and mission to stop himself and others from the monster that fuels their hands.
ANDREA: You know, what do you say? Words leave me. Speechless when I hear something like that. What I want to hear, and Lisa and I are both interested. We'd love to hear a little bit about your experience because for those who are listening who didn't necessarily hear your speech and I encourage all of you, we're going to put a link on Facebook of your speech at the UN and I encourage you all to go and listen to it. But, tell us a little bit about your experience and why you're so passionate about this topic.
KELLY: Well, I grew up in a very bloody childhood. When your mommy beats you, then it sets off a very bad dynamic for being a grown up. You know? And, being beaten early on sets up a lot of trauma and post-traumatic stress and you sort of go into that. At 15 ½, I started to be raped and then you become a victim and then you become a victim again and again and again. Then I listen to people like Bill Cosby who's not even being investigated and that is a crying shame that in this country there's not even an investigation, yet 20 something women have come out. The abuse that I have suffered I will try and stop that for other people because it is just not…It's not on and it has to stop. Social media, I think, can help a lot with that.
Yes. I've been beaten and raped a number of times. It'll be in my book which, you know, hopefully will be coming out next year. I want to help people. It's not alright to hurt inside. I looked like the perfect woman, but it was just a big burden to hold all that nasty stuff inside and I just want to help other people. So, here we go.
LISA: I'm so glad.
KELLY: Also, before I did my speech, I had this crazy massage. Nobody gets a speech before they go into the UN and it was called somatic release response and the guy worked on me and had me crying in 5 minutes. Amir Saloom or something. A healer. I had a healing before I went out and spoke all these hideous things and it's sort of great the way things come about when you need them, you know?
LISA: Oh, definitely. Well, what do you recommend for people to start healing? It's so incredibly difficult. You mentioned PTSD and I actually know some women that have that from trauma, from childhood and rape and other experiences.
KELLY: Most people have it. I would look into transcendental meditation. It's not goofy, weird, strange. It is helping a lot of children in war torn areas. Transcendental meditation. Look up the David Lynch Foundation. That can put you into a beautiful, quiet place where you can start to feel the healing; where you can start to feel the forgiving. You don't have to forget but you do have to forgive because that's the only way the journey ends. Otherwise, these monsters win.
ANDREA: You know, just listening to you speak, it's so profound. Again, for those of you who are listening, Kelly's mission has really been to end this violence against women.
Kelly, tell us a little bit more about what your speech at the UN was about. Like, what could people do? If they're listening to you talk and they're like, "Okay. I need to do something now. What could people do to take action?" Well, it's a very dangerous situation. There was a beautiful woman from India there and she was telling me that her husband was abusing her and I'm like, "You're not in India anymore. This is America. This is why you came to America. It's not cool for your kids to see your husband treat you this way." People are too scared to talk. I don't know where to send people. Maybe they have to go and…I don't know because a lot of the time, too, these people, if they find out that the woman that's getting beaten, if the husband finds out that they're talking about it, they might do something even worse. You basically have to pull yourself together. Get the hell out of there. Take your kids. It's not okay to feel the way that you feel. Get help. Go to relatives. I don't know how bad it is, but if it's bad, get the hell out of there.
LISA: Yes. Those are true words of wisdom and it makes such a difference. You sometimes hear people say, "Well, why do women stay?" Sometimes they don't have relatives or they don't know where to go.
KELLY: Well, we're scared. We're scared.
LISA: Exactly.
KELLY: We're downtrodden. We have no self-esteem. Self-esteem is our friend. We need to feel good inside and that does not happen when you're staying in a bad place. You just have to take the bull by the horns and get the hell out of there. I don't care what it takes, just get out.
LISA: Now, Kelly, I know you left your home at a young age, correct?
KELLY: Fifteen and a half, I left home. At 16, I was paying my parents' mortgage. You know? But, my mom had a lot of love in her, but she had a very violent hand and temper. I still feel like I grew up in a house of love which is funny. There was a lot of love, but there was a lot of smacking, as well. I mean, my arm was opened up. I needed stitches and actually, to punish her, I didn't go to the doctor. We didn't go to the hospital, I just left the wound opened so that she could see. I guess I sort of punished her. But then, my mother was in a very, very violent childhood as well. Six poor Irish kids, you know, one bath on Fridays, all 6 kids took the same water. Her parents were very violent. So, you know, you live the life you've learned. But it's not okay. It's not okay and it was very important to me that I did not hit my kids. I may have smacked them a couple of times on the butt, but usually not, because when you're beaten, you tend to do the same things. You can control it. You have to control it.
ANDREA: Well, Kelly, unfortunately…
KELLY: And that crazy stuff about henna having lead in it. We're silly enough. We don't need any more metal.
ANDREA: Yes. Definitely. Dr. Fratilone is pretty awesome.
Kelly, we're out of time today, but as always, we love having you on the show and continue doing your incredible life's work and we're going to post a link to your UN speech. It was fantastic, as we said.
You can follow Kelly at Twitter @KellyLebrock. I'm Andrea Donsky along with Lisa Davis. This is Naturally Savvy Radio on RadioMD. Like us on Facebook and follow us on Twitter @YourRadioMD and @Naturally Savvy.
Thanks for listening, everyone and stay well. - Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received Yes
- Internal Notes repeat guest
- Host Andrea Donsky, RHN and Lisa Davis, MPH
If you're a lover of wine, you may have been shocked to hear that a recent analysis of certain wines from California showed they contained arsenic.
Additional Info
- Segment Number 1
- Audio File naturally_savvy/1514ns3a.mp3
- Featured Speaker Patrick Fratellone, MD
- Guest Website Fratellone Medical
- Guest Twitter Account @patric1939
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Guest Bio
Patrick Fratellone is one of the few integrative physicians with a medical degree (MD) as well as being a Registered Herbalist with the American Herbal Guild. Although his conventional training was in Internal Medicine and Cardiology, the scope of his practices is vast. He trained with both Andrew Weil, MD, and Tierona LowDog, MD, RH, at the Fellowship of Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona. He has written the forward to two recent books: My Journey with Celiac Disease: Jennifer Esposito and the Tracy Piper Protocol by Tracy Piper. He writes a daily blog, and has a weekly internet radio show.
- Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received Yes
- Host Andrea Donsky, RHN and Lisa Davis, MPH
Listen in as Dr. Mike provides the answers to a wealth of health and wellness questions.
Additional Info
- Segment Number 5
- Audio File healthy_talk/1514ht3e.mp3
- Organization Life Extension
- Guest Website Healthy Talk MD
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Transcription
RadioMD Presents: Healthy Talk | Original Air Date: April 1, 2015
Host: Michael Smith, MD
You're listening to RadioMD. It's time to ask Dr. Mike. Do you have a question about your health? Dr. Mike can answer your questions. Just email AskDrMikeSmith@RadioMD.com or call now: 877-711-5211. The lines are open.
DR MIKE: Alright. So, my producer, Sheldon Baker, just emailed me. AskDrMikeSmith@RadioMD.com. He said, "Are you sure you want to tell people that they can tell you when you'll read the questions?" He's always looking out for me. Hey, by the way, you can email me questions right now. Maybe I'll get to it right now. Who knows?
But, again, if you want your question read at specific time, I'll do my best. I can't guarantee anything. Sheldon, I said that. I can't guarantee anything. I'll try my best. AskDrMikeSmith@RadioMD.com.
Here's the next question: "What are the best supplements for treating cancer?"
This is awesome because I just got finished speaking with Dr. V about healing breast cancer naturally, so I think the best way to answer this is just to say, "Go to PubMed." No, I'm just kidding. By the way, you should go to PubMed.com. Or. is it PubMed.gov? I forget. Just put PubMed in Google. You'll find it. I go there all the time. It's where I check references. It's where I look for things. Sometimes when I just want ideas about something. I'll go to PubMed. I'll search grape seed extract and see what's going on and see what's been published recently about it. It's awesome. It's wonderful. It's amazing. But, I think the best way to answer this, this could be a whole hour long show. I could do a whole seminar—a weekend seminar on this—but if you just think about how a cancer cell forms and what it has to do to spread, it kind of gives you some idea of how I'm going to present this information.
There are basically four stages—I think that's a better way to say it than steps—four stages of cancer spread. The first thing is, Stage I. The cancer has to develop. That's called "carcinogenesis". The healthy cell has to become a cancer cell, right? That's the first thing. Once that happens, that cancer cell has to do things like avoid the immune system. It has to turn off programmed cell death which is called "apoptosis". More importantly, it needs to get together with other cancer cells. That's known as "cancer cell aggregation". That's Stage II.
So, you have carcinogenesis—the cause. Then, you have cancer cells getting together, hanging out together, that's called aggregation. Now, once they've aggregated together and they start forming more of a solid mass, in order to keep that mass alive, they need to grow blood vessels. That's Stage III. That's called "angiogenesis". Once that's happened, that globe, that glob of cancer cells with a bunch of vessels around it, it now needs to get out of where it's at, into the bloodstream and travel. That's called "metastatic spread" or metastasis. So, that's the four basic stages: initiation, aggregation, angiogenesis and spread. There are research-supported nutrients that can help with all three of those stages. So, the first one, carcinogenesis. Cruciferous veggie extract--a nice combination of maybe broccoli, kale, cauliflower. That's usually the combination. Sometimes you'll get these cruciferous vegetable extracts that they've added in some additional DIM, Diindolylmethane indole-3-carbinol, IC3.
Great stuff. Tons of research support with cruciferous vegetables in preventing cancer. Hey, don't forget about a multivitamin. In preventing carcinogenesis, in preventing initiation, multivitamins, the basic vitamins and minerals have been shown to be very powerful. As a matter of fact, there was a study that showed a 31% decrease in cancer incidence in men—it was focused on men—in a study called Supplementation and Vitamins and Minerals and Antioxidants. It was published, maybe 2 years ago. Another one looking at men, it was called The Physician Health Study II, also showed that a multivitamin over a 11-year period reduced cancer risk. So, even the basics, right? Multivitamin, cruciferous veggies. Awesome.
Now, what about Stage II, aggregation? Because, once again, remember once the cancer cells form, now it has to stick together, it has to hang out with other cancer cells, right? It can't really survive by itself. It has to stick together. It has to aggregate. Curcumin has been shown to decrease cancer cell aggregation. Certain mushroom extracts like reishi. I'm literally doing this off my head. There are tons more that I'm absolutely forgetting about. But, curcumin, reishi. They are what comes to mind.
This is Healthy Talk on RadioMD. I'm Dr. Mike. Stay well. - Length (mins) 10
- Waiver Received No
- Internal Notes NO GUEST
- Host Mike Smith, MD
Listen in as Dr. Mike provides the answers to a wealth of health and wellness questions.
Additional Info
- Segment Number 4
- Audio File healthy_talk/1514ht3d.mp3
- Organization Life Extension
- Guest Website Healthy Talk MD
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Transcription
RadioMD Presents: Healthy Talk | Original Air Date: April 1, 2015
Host: Michael Smith, MD
It's time for you to be a part of the show. Email or call with questions for Dr. Mike now. Email: AskDrMikeSmith@RadioMD.com or call: 877-711-5211. What are you waiting for? The doctor is in.
DR MIKE: So, my first question is from Brenda Anderson. She even asked when I would read this question on air and I told her I would do it today. You can do that when you send your email question to AskDrMikeSmith@RadioMD.com.
I want you to listen every day live, but we offer all of my shows on demand at RadioMD. I know that you can't make it live every day, but if you submit a question and you definitely want to hear it read on air, tell me when you would like for me to do it. Now, I can't guarantee anything, but I'll try my best. Or, we'll work together like I did with Brenda and come up with a time to read it on air.
Anyway, let me get on with Brenda's question.
"Dr. Smith: Thank you for your radio show. It's informative." I appreciate that. "I can listen to the podcast." That's awesome.
" What can you tell me about the antioxidant product called protandim? I'm currently considering purchasing this product as it is supposed to specifically reduce oxidative stress. I don't like that it's one of those pyramid marketing programs, so I want to know if the product is all it is supposed to be. I have a strong family history of cardiovascular disease." That's an important point to know.
"I am 58 and very healthy thus far, so have considered using this product to help with prevention. After doing my own search on PubMed about it, there seems to be a large amount of evidence-based research supporting some of the products ingredients in mice, so I'm confused. What do you know about it and do you recommend it for general health or are there other products that you recommend? Please let me know if and when you will air my question."
I told her when I would do this. There you go. You can tell me when you would like me to read your question.
So, I've had several questions on protandim throughout my career. At least in the last, I don't know, three or four years and the product, to be honest with you, doesn't impress me that much so I always forget what's in it and I have to go look it up. Nothing against it. Just every time I look at the ingredients I think, "Well, okay, that's nothing special," because it's not. I know it can be expensive, I think? I didn't really look at the cost. So, to answer the question, as a collection of antioxidants, it's a good product. It has milk thistle, bacopa, ashwagandha, green tea, turmeric. So, yes. Now, I think the doses are a little low and the turmeric that they're using is not the best kind. The best kind of turmeric is called BCM95 and they're not using that in the product, so they're not even using the best curcumin and it's only 75mg, significantly under dosed. Significantly. So, yes. So, it has the right stuff in it, right? It has good stuff, I just think you could probably just do some of these separately.
Brenda, you were specifically asking about your heart disease risk, right? You say, "I have a strong family history of cardiovascular disease," so all of these antioxidants are good in the product, but I think there are other ones you're missing. I mean, are you doing CoQ10? Are you taking L-carnitine? Are you getting enough vitamin C? Like maybe 1000mg, 2000mg of vitamin C every day. Taurine, the amino acid, about a gram a day. What about pomegranate? I mean, you give me history of at least a family history of cardiovascular disease, that's what I'm going to focus on for you. That's personalizing your approach. Although protandim might just be a nice collection of under dosed, in my opinion, antioxidants, it might be an okay product. But, for you specifically, you mentioned cardiovascular disease. So, I think there are other products you might consider. At least pomegranate and that's not one of the ingredients.
So, listen, it's protandim. Forget the fact that it's multilevel marketing. Whatever. It's a collection of five antioxidants. They're good antioxidants. You've got liver support in there. You have anti-inflammatory support in there. You have oxidative support in there. So, I mean, it's good. It has 5 good products, I personally think they're under dosed and at least one of them is the wrong form. It's the wrong extract. BCM95 for curcumin. It's not in there. So, I think there is better. Nothing against protandim. Sorry. I'll probably get some emails. That's okay. We agree to disagree.
So, again, let me reiterate for you, Brenda, it's critical for you that you focus on the heart and at least get some pomegranate in there. The CoQ10, the carnitine, those would be probably better for you outside of the basics, a multivitamin, Omega 3 oils, probiotics. Okay. Alright. So, that's my opinion about protandim.
Alright. Let's go on. This is a question that came to me from Beth McGraham.
"Hi, Dr. Mike. First I wanted to say, I love your show." Thank you.
"I've learned so much from listening." Awesome.
"I also try to work out in the morning because after a long day at work, and getting things done around my house, I just feel so tired."
Okay, so Beth works out in the morning because she doesn't have energy at the end of the day. That's the gist of that.
"But I should also mention I have a really hard time falling asleep and staying asleep throughout the night. I don't feel like I get enough get enough sleep by the time my alarm goes off at 5:30 AM."
Assuming she's getting up earlier to go work out. "So, I was wondering if it was better to get extra sleep or make myself get out of bed?"
So, let's make sure, Beth, that I'm reading this correctly. You work out in the morning because you don't have energy in the afternoon, so you get up a little extra early to do that, but you don't feel like you're getting enough sleep. It doesn't sound like this regimen is working well for you. There's nothing wrong with playing around with your exercise regimen, your daily regimen, to try to find what's going to work best. I agree with you, I think you've got to have sleep. As a matter of fact, if you don't sleep well and you're working out, your recovery is going to be diminished. You're not going to build the muscle like you could. You're not going to produce the growth hormone like you need to after exercise.
So, I think I'm going to answer this by saying I want you to get more sleep. Maybe you need to readjust the entire process here. How about, let's focus on the sleep and shift the workout to the afternoon. Now, I know you tell me that you're low in energy in the afternoon. I get that. Maybe I can make some suggestions there. Maybe in the afternoon, for a snack, try a high protein snack. No sugars, no caffeine. That's just going to crash you, right? Water and a high protein/moderate fat snack like almonds. Perfect. Almonds is a great combination of protein and fat. About 150 calories per ounce, per handful or so. That would be good. That might give you some energy. You can also do a supplement. There's a supplement that combines fermented ginseng and cordyceps. I don't have time to go into what cordyceps are, but that combination, you can find it at many companies. It's kind of the replacement of and afternoon coffee. The fermented ginseng and the cordyceps help your mitochondria to product ATP, so you combine that with protein and fat, you might have enough energy to do your workout.
Also, remember, too, even if you're feeling tired, if you start to work out, that will give you energy as well. So, I think you should sleep. I think you should take that workout, move it to the afternoon and get your sleep. Melatonin, lemon balm, valerian root, gaba, there are all sorts of choices there. Magnesium to help you sleep. Get your sleep. Try the protein and fat snack in the afternoon with the fermented ginseng and cordyceps product and work out in the afternoon. Give it a try. See how it works. Don't try it for 2 days and give up. Be consistent. Give it a good 2, 3, 4 weeks and see how you feel, Beth. I hope that helps.
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